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Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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Post by tgragnato »

exelius wrote: post #91
tgragnato wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When packets traverse the edge router, IX, cable (landing) station, .. if they're recognised as VPN traffic, then the server's IP (or IP / port) is added to a blacklist, every subsequent packet is dropped. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_packet_inspection

Yup; this is why VPN over HTTPS is a thing.

HTTPS has whole series of side-channel leaks, which can be exploited to fingerprint the tunnelled protocol: many implementations don't add padding or active probing resistance.

Sizable communications with an uncommon IP can be singled out by netflow analysis.

But yes, it usually works.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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Post by bufferoverflow »

martin_a wrote: post #90
coldtea wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the current web is such perfection?

Cryptocurrencies and Blockchain technology has no use whatsoever. It's all made up with fictionary scenarios where any already existing and well-established technology would do just as good or even better. Don't put that snake oil in my browser, please. Thanks.

Cryptocurrencies have all kinds of uses, people actually use them. From countries with hyperinflation, to ridiculous civil forfeiture, to PayPal freezing large amounts for no reason.

And it's my favorite method of payment, so easy.

So don't speak for everyone.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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Post by aasasd »

nukeop wrote: post #83
throwaway2048 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and be the one very strong signal from $VPN_IPRANGE that has a random wacky user agent, along with disabled scripting (and a quite comprehensive CSS fingerprint to boot).

My fingerprint is different every minute. That "very strong signal" is discarded by every surveillance engine as useless noise.

There are like three dozen factors in a web user's fingerprint, of which the user agent is just one. And no, the rest aren't all controlled by JS.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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Post by cslarson »

thefounder wrote: post #9

Crypto's main issue is not the UX. It's the volatility and costs(i.e merchants pay less for the same crypto). Until these two issues are fixed it makes no sense to use crypto payments unless you are denied access to mainstream payment networks(visa/mastercard). The VPN should be integrated at the OS level not browser level.

You are equating crypto with payment but it's really moved on from that. The blockchain space really about competing with Ethereum to provide a decentralised platform for applications - what some people term as web3.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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Post by dao- »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #76
sergiotapia wrote: post #73

God I miss Opera 12, Presto and Dragonfly. :(

You might be interested in Vivaldi, a chromium fork made by some of the same people that originally made opera. https://vivaldi.com/

It's not a Chromium fork, it basically is Chromium with a custom UI and stuff added on top.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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Post by nbabitskiy »

anc84 wrote: post #96
nbabitskiy wrote: post #89

Isn't it misleading, to discuss it as a "vpn service"? If you install a binary, that not only controls vpn channel on both sides, but is also a browser, do I understand it right, that it can completely highjack the trust mechanisms, and happily MITM anything you visit? Is there any way to find out if it's really establishing, well, vpn connection (e.g. openVPN or Wireguard), without DPI hardware and corresponding exp…

This is the same as any non-tech person using a "VPN". They do not care about privacy or anything. So this makes sense.

Please correct me, if I'm wrong. When a non-tech person buys a vpn subscription, she may be provided with a tunneling software, but the key exchange is still happening in the browser. If the site shows a green lock, you can trust the connection to be encrypted, to the extent you trust Mozilla.

Also, many vpn providers let you use open source software, like OpenVPN.

Opera, however, can ship an installer with a statically linked mock ssh lib, that's always showing a green lock. It's a much more sinister threat model.

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