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Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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I swear my stepdaughter hates me because I gave her my old Nexus 6P. It's a sweet phone, I don't understand the issue. I don't want to give in and buy her an iPhone, but she had tears in her eyes when I told her $800 wasn't the greatest use of funds.

no idea if this still applies, but snapchat used to run like shit on android.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Blue chat bubbles > green ones seems to be a big piece of it. You're not wrong.

He’s not wrong but the niece isn’t wrong either. Style and being cool matter more to some people than others.

Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall iphone experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? Or are you all Android owners who don’t realize that people who prefer Apple products tend to actually like them?

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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>Treating young people like they are less savvy or reasoned about the decisions is always a mistake. I am not sure it is always a mistake. People have made billions of dollars by doing. Look at how sneakers are advertised and sold. On a more sinister note, take a look at the whole Joe Camel cigarette advertising campaign.

Most people who are buying expensive sneakers are not young. And it's nothing to do with advertising and everything to do with fashion, hobby, exclusivity etc. Likewise bringing up cigarette is ridiculous since it ignores the fact that they are highly addictive.

Right, not at all like phones :)

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Sort of makes sense. Android is generally a mess and hasn't really added much of value over the last 4 years. Whereas iOS has had huge yearly updates with actual features. Plus, iMessage is a huge draw. Android has what, 5 messaging apps?

You're making a huge assumption that the young mainstream picked iOS over Android was because of function over form. You can't discount that their products are very fashionable (Apple markets well, they look great, everyone else has one).

Kids can also be extremely mean and some will jump all over “green text” kids. Apple certainly doesn’t help by closing their API. Not that they should have to open it but it’s not like they have a really affordable option anymore so the pressure on low income kids and subsequently their parents is pretty strong.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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As a student at a middle to upper class high school, I can say that it's definitely not about the actual features of iOS vs Android -- it's just a status symbol. People with iPhones are considered slightly "cooler", or at the very least it's more hip to have an iPhone than an Android. Apple's walled garden contributes to its dominance as well, if all your friends are using FaceTime and iMessage, there's not much that might influence someone to pick an Android phone than economic reasons. Speaking of which, the iPhone vs Android debate among teens really boils down to a thinly veiled version of classism (in my opinion). I heard a classmate respond to a question of what kind of phone she had with, "an iPhone, but it's a 6, so it's pretty much a Droid." (I'm not sure where the 2008 terminology came from, but still.)

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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post #44

I swear my stepdaughter hates me because I gave her my old Nexus 6P. It's a sweet phone, I don't understand the issue. I don't want to give in and buy her an iPhone, but she had tears in her eyes when I told her $800 wasn't the greatest use of funds.

You can used iPhone 6's on ebay for $150.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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post #44

I swear my stepdaughter hates me because I gave her my old Nexus 6P. It's a sweet phone, I don't understand the issue. I don't want to give in and buy her an iPhone, but she had tears in her eyes when I told her $800 wasn't the greatest use of funds.

I use an old SE and I love it. It does what I want a phone to do, and just works every time. For my desktop I want freedom, but on my phone I want to have a safe App Store and not spend a lot of time wondering if the app I want is malware or counterfeit or a scam. I just want it to be a working item and that’s it.

Maybe she feels the same way? No need to buy here an $800 model either, you can get really good iPhomes for a fraction of that price.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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He’s not wrong but the niece isn’t wrong either. Style and being cool matter more to some people than others.

Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall iphone experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? Or are you all Android owners who don’t realize that people who prefer Apple products tend to actually like them?

Preferring an iPhone is one thing, but the "tears in your eyes" comment from OP makes me think this is 100% a status thing. Also that I remember what is was like being a teenager in the US.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

Android has always been a stop-gap for Google. Fuchsia is going to be the first real competitor to iOS.

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