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It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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DuckDuckGo's "lite" search: https://duckduckgo.com/lite?q= My DDG-from-shell Bash function: ddg () { w3m https://duckduckgo.com/lite?q="$*" }

I use the html search instead of the lite search. Not sure what the difference is, but it gets past the reload in elinks.

In console browsers, far less screen cruft, and no HTML redirect.

Focus is either on the submission field or gets there on first tab. Search button is focused on next tab, and visible.

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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I have been noticing (what appear to be) truncated search results in Google for some time now. At first I thought that was because I was accessing Google through Startpage. But that's not the case. Anyways, I find myself using Bing more and more often these days, because the search results dig more deeply into the 'obscure'. I'm not at all upset by this. It seems to me that as Google's results are not completely sati…

The meta search engine www.dogpile.com still exists but I'm not sure how good it actually is.

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Google does have some webmaster tools where, after you prove you own the site, you can check if there's something you have to fix about it to get listed, can submit new URLs for them to scan, etc..

Even if your site is perfect according to Search Console/Webmaster Tools, that won't get you listed on Google Search.

Google Search Console will tell you what pages were submitted (via sitemap) and what pages are indexed as well as any errors.

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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This has been been happening for years and getting increasingly worse. But it's not just old websites. I think it's certain types of content. Here is one specific example out of dozens I've seen. There is a short satirical rant "published" on Pastebin called The Java Way. Posted in 2015. Unfindable on Google. It was indexed and findable around the time it was posted. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d…

Amazingly, three hours after your post, this hacker news comment is now showing up in the top 5 for the Google query. Wow.

Not on my version of Google. But for me it started showing this as top result:

  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22the+java+way%22+paste...
  No information is available for this page.
  Learn why
I tested this on different browsers and IPs. Seems like it indexed the link from this thread, but can't display it because of DDG's robots.txt settings or something like that.

Bizarre.

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Unfortunately google is the only way to search old usenet archives from the web, since they bought out such archives. That search leaves much to be desired.

Only the relevance search has results for usenet posts, you can't order by date, and other then using date ranges, there's no way to only see usenet posts.

For example searching for "gamer" before 1/1/2000:

relevance https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/%22gamer%22$20befor...

date https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/%22gamer%22$20befor...

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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While it's become impossible to browse the wider Web with Google, it's getting a bit easier elsewhere. A few helpful search engines: * https://millionshort.com/ * https://wiby.me/ * https://pinboard.in/search/ A recent movement to build personal Yahoo!-style directories: * https://href.cool/ (my own project) * https://indieseek.xyz/ * https://districts.neocities.org/ * https://the.dailywebthing.com/ The above resourc…

Thanks for posting! I have added some of those, along with others in the replies, to my own page of text-only and minimal sites at http://www.friendlyskies.net/fmk/index.php?tpl=Links-Text-On...

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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This has been been happening for years and getting increasingly worse. But it's not just old websites. I think it's certain types of content. Here is one specific example out of dozens I've seen. There is a short satirical rant "published" on Pastebin called The Java Way. Posted in 2015. Unfindable on Google. It was indexed and findable around the time it was posted. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d…

Your DDG link is now the second result in the Google results for me. (One spot higher up than your reply.)

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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> Anecdotally and perhaps unrelated - has anyone else noticed a decrease in the accuracy and general quality of Google search over the past 2-4 months Yes. Not just over the past 2-4 months, but over the past five years or so. It's become so bad that Google is no longer the most useful search engine for me.

What would you recommend instead?

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Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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From my experience I can say that the web is filled with garbage that tries to exploit whichever search engine you may be using, while also trying to exploit your own attention with flashy headlines and sensationalistic content. These two go hand in hand. It wasn't that long ago that any Google search would return a big list of blog entries; personal, non-commercial blogs, that is. That was the case with YouTube, as…

> I guess that's part of the long-gone, old web.

That old web still exists! It tends to get drowned out by all of the commercial sites, and you won't find more than a hint or two of it through Google, but it is still there...

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Here is an example: http://www.gnoosic.com/discussion/metallica__5.html No matter how you search for the content on Google, nothing comes up: https://www.google.com/search?q="Metallica+only+played+2+son... DuckDuckGo has it: https://duckduckgo.com/?q="Metallica+only+played+2+songs+fro... I checked the wayback machine and the content has constantly been on that url for over 10 years. This is the first example of an ol…

From what I can tell, there's no links anywhere on the site to that particular page, you have to know the exact term and search it: http://www.gnoosic.com/discussion/ How is Google supposed to find that out?!

How are you determining nothing links this? Google?
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