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Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by rlue »

klntsky wrote: post #26

/r/Piracy owners deserve it. They should've considered such a possibility before allowing their community to grow on a platform they do not control. So they are not "victims", just a bit inconsiderate. And there is no reason to blame reddit, or anyone, for the deletion. They are not obliged to provide their service to anyone.

There's a difference between being right and being constructive, and you should consider this difference when submitting public commentary on sensitive topics (or just any time you open your mouth). In a purely self-interested sense, being right but abrasive is a poor strategy because it induces people to focus on the faults in your argument, rather than the merits.

To wit, you've got a good point about the importance of autonomy and independence. But no one is rushing to defend your position here because you've sprinkled in a few unsympathetic value judgments and absolute claims along the way.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by pas »

kyriakos wrote: post #84

Not just about piracy but.. This is the usual pattern in online discussion platforms. Start free, advocate for free speech, then figure out you need to make money and you suddenly stop being a rebel and sink down to be the corporate sellout you always preached against. Reddit will eventually be replaced by something else and the cycle continues.

Was Reddit preaching against copyrights? Or even against "corporate selloutism"?

I mean, banning watch-people-die is obviously because they are trying to be somehow attracting more advertisers, being more profit-friendly, but they never condoned copyright infringement as far as I know.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by Aromasin »

rahuldottech wrote: post #70
Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #67

How is Reddit’s crackdown on piracy-mentioning posts going to affect r/Scholar? That’s a subreddit where the guidelines clearly point people to Sci-Hub and Libgen, and if the desired content is not there, people are encouraged to supply that content to those who request it. r/Scholar is very popular in the academic world, especially in countries like India where institutions often lack subscriptions to publication-ho…

Dunno man, but I hope it survives. Even if it is banned, maybe it'll pop up as a different community elsewhere?

My Reddit time has dropped to almost 0 with the mass adoption of Discord. Lots of valuable Google Sheets full of resources are pinned in the most niche of Discord servers. It's not an effective swap in many cases, but it's advantages are currently vastly outweighing the disadvantages.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by dpark »

pas wrote: post #112
kyriakos wrote: post #84

Not just about piracy but.. This is the usual pattern in online discussion platforms. Start free, advocate for free speech, then figure out you need to make money and you suddenly stop being a rebel and sink down to be the corporate sellout you always preached against. Reddit will eventually be replaced by something else and the cycle continues.

Was Reddit preaching against copyrights? Or even against "corporate selloutism"? I mean, banning watch-people-die is obviously because they are trying to be somehow attracting more advertisers, being more profit-friendly, but they never condoned copyright infringement as far as I know.

The best thing that ever happened to Reddit from a growth perspective was Digg blocking DeCSS keys. Digg flipped out trying to block it because it violated the DMCA and as a result a huge set of users fled to Reddit which notably did not block the same keys from being posted at the time.

Edit: Looks like it was the AACS key (Blu-Ray and HD-DVD) was the key that set all this off, not CSS.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by rhino369 »

rel2thr wrote: post #72

I’m surprised reddit let’s the sports stream subreddits stay up. These are kind of going mainstream and must be a huge thorn in the side of cable companies

My only guess is that the NFL, NBA, etc. don’t really care. The viewers are still watching the ads.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by mkbkn »

Aromasin wrote: post #113
rahuldottech wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dunno man, but I hope it survives. Even if it is banned, maybe it'll pop up as a different community elsewhere?

My Reddit time has dropped to almost 0 with the mass adoption of Discord. Lots of valuable Google Sheets full of resources are pinned in the most niche of Discord servers. It's not an effective swap in many cases, but it's advantages are currently vastly outweighing the disadvantages.

I've considered spending more time on Discord than reddit but finding quality Discord servers is hard.

How did you find such valuable servers? Could you guide me.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by LocalH »

Aromasin wrote: post #113
rahuldottech wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dunno man, but I hope it survives. Even if it is banned, maybe it'll pop up as a different community elsewhere?

My Reddit time has dropped to almost 0 with the mass adoption of Discord. Lots of valuable Google Sheets full of resources are pinned in the most niche of Discord servers. It's not an effective swap in many cases, but it's advantages are currently vastly outweighing the disadvantages.

My only problem with Discord is that it's quite hard to keep organized. Honestly I think a good combination would be a Discord server coupled with a good wiki

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by aasasd »

panarky wrote: post #97
wsgeorge wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4chan, despite all its vileness, has convinced me of the necessity to maintain as much unrestrained human freedom in (at least) some quarters of the Internet as is possible. Such freedom seems so essential to Internet culture that, in my opinion, it must be protected.

> 4chan, despite all its vileness, has convinced me of the necessity to maintain as much unrestrained human freedom ... Can you provide an example of something valuable you found on 4chan/8chan that could not be found on a site with less "vileness"?

Loli Ripe's j-breakcore.

Also greentexts.

I get both from elsewhere, but they originate on 4chan.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by nyolfen »

notthemessiah wrote: post #109
fxbl0i wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Political arguments that differ from the mainstream and that could only happen on a platform which is both anonymous and has a hands off approach to moderation and monetisation.

> Political arguments that differ from the mainstream That is a polite way of describing anti-Semitism and conspiracy theories such as Q-Anon.

yes, and twitter is nothing except a polite way to say cyberbullying

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by panarky »

fxbl0i wrote: post #101
panarky wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 4chan, despite all its vileness, has convinced me of the necessity to maintain as much unrestrained human freedom ... Can you provide an example of something valuable you found on 4chan/8chan that could not be found on a site with less "vileness"?

Political arguments that differ from the mainstream and that could only happen on a platform which is both anonymous and has a hands off approach to moderation and monetisation.

Still looking for an example of something valuable you found on 4chan/8chan that could not be found on a site with less "vileness".
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