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The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets

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Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets

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I live in an area with a lot of newly arrived Chinese grad students. Not generalizing but many of the WiFi ssids I see are : chinanumbaone , df26(one day I realized this is carrier killer missile)

I think the first ssid was someone's attempt at being edgy.

Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets

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The problem with these efforts is that the FBI often does not consult with technical experts before indicting Chinese nationals and have resulted in a number of false cases that have damaged the reputation of regular Chinese Americans. The rate at which Asians are falsely accused are twice those of other races[1]

[1]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/study-suggests-as...

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/12/us/politics/us-drops-char...

https://qz.com/1116990/the-aclu-says-the-fbi-is-accusing-chi...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/aug99/sp...

https://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/arti...

Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets

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I live in an area with a lot of newly arrived Chinese grad students. Not generalizing but many of the WiFi ssids I see are : chinanumbaone , df26(one day I realized this is carrier killer missile)

I think the first ssid was someone's attempt at being edgy.

The second is far more "edgy"

Believe people (individuals, groups) when they tell you who they are.

Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm uncomfortable about the fire, too. And I'd like to trust the firefighters to handle the fire, in this case. Not alarm non-firefighters, to go rushing in the way of firefighters, kicking in doors of houses that are not on fire, etc.

> kicking in doors of houses that are not on fire, etc. I don't follow your metaphor.

For example, treating a coworker poorly because of what country they're from, or what religion. Or worse, especially when unstable people get riled up by right-wing outlets.

Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets

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China has some areas where they innovate, but they primarily excel at copying .

All innovation starts with copying what came before. This is why liberal IP laws are so important to innovation. HN readers seem to understand this basic point quite well unless China is involved.

Except China as a state isn't our ally or friend. Their interests lie primarily in furthering their own political and military power, and secondarily benefiting their own population. They're more than eager to steal technology, then use that new-found knowledge and ability combined with massive government subsidies to drown out foreign competitors locally and abroad.

Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> kicking in doors of houses that are not on fire, etc. I don't follow your metaphor.

To hazard a guess, it should be up to to security/risk experts and the like to monitor and determine where the threats come from, set policies, and deny access accordingly. It shouldn't be up to citizen watchdogs to yank computers from people because they have a terminal up appear to be hacking things.

> It shouldn't be up to citizen watchdogs to yank computers from people because they have a terminal up appear to be hacking things.

Which is entirely reasonable, but I don't see anyone advocating this nor does the article so I'm a bit confused. Is someone advocating some kind of Chinese pogrom here?

Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> kicking in doors of houses that are not on fire, etc. I don't follow your metaphor.

For example, treating a coworker poorly because of what country they're from, or what religion. Or worse, especially when unstable people get riled up by right-wing outlets.

> For example, treating a coworker poorly because of what country they're from, or what religion. Or worse, especially when unstable people get riled up by right-wing outlets.

Since you're the poster, where are you getting this from? I'm not reading that in either the replies nor the article... this feels like scaremongering in the opposite direction.

Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets

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I'm a bit uncomfortable with ideas like this being promoted in the popular press so much recently. Spy-vs-spy is something that, for better or worse, nations do. It seems a complicated and delicate matter, and outside the experience of most of us. In the Boston area, we have a wealth of colleagues, neighbors, and friends who arrived here from around the world. We welcome and appreciate them. Ordinary people suspectin…

>diplomats, intel agencies, law enforcement, corporate security

Personally, I have absolutely no trust in any of these, and I completely disagree that we should "leave it to the professionals" and let them "handle discretely" whatever is going on. This is how you end up with things like FISA courts, Gitmo, and PRISM.

Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> kicking in doors of houses that are not on fire, etc. I don't follow your metaphor.

For example, treating a coworker poorly because of what country they're from, or what religion. Or worse, especially when unstable people get riled up by right-wing outlets.

You seem to be making a lot of baseless assumptions about this topic
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