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The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets
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#12I'm a bit uncomfortable with ideas like this being promoted in the popular press so much recently. Spy-vs-spy is something that, for better or worse, nations do. It seems a complicated and delicate matter, and outside the experience of most of us. In the Boston area, we have a wealth of colleagues, neighbors, and friends who arrived here from around the world. We welcome and appreciate them. Ordinary people suspectin…
Why should you be uncomfortable? Even by your own definition, it is something that is often done but seldom discussed, and there is a change (Boston tech are targeted), so it is news. And, this IS different than ordinary "spy-vs-spy". That normally applies to keeping track of national adversaries' military strength & asset positioning, political maneuvering, treaty talks, etc. This, in contrast, is straight up indust…
I'm uncomfortable about the fire, too. And I'd like to trust the firefighters to handle the fire, in this case. Not alarm non-firefighters, to go rushing in the way of firefighters, kicking in doors of houses that are not on fire, etc.
Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets
#13I live in an area with a lot of newly arrived Chinese grad students. Not generalizing but many of the WiFi ssids I see are : chinanumbaone , df26(one day I realized this is carrier killer missile)
Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets
#14I'm a bit uncomfortable with ideas like this being promoted in the popular press so much recently. Spy-vs-spy is something that, for better or worse, nations do. It seems a complicated and delicate matter, and outside the experience of most of us. In the Boston area, we have a wealth of colleagues, neighbors, and friends who arrived here from around the world. We welcome and appreciate them. Ordinary people suspectin…
I agree that general "All Chinese are spying on you!" is not a helpful message, but nation-state espionage, generally, is not a bad thing to be aware of overall. The article also doesn't seem to fear-monger so much as call out recent espionage attempts while also citing the difficulty of detection because most folks are here for the right reasons. As for "leave it to the professionals", you left out a key component f…
When I said "leave it to the professionals", I meant to cover the workers indirectly when I said "corporate security". Corporate security personnel shouldn't be getting operational info from popular press.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why should you be uncomfortable? Even by your own definition, it is something that is often done but seldom discussed, and there is a change (Boston tech are targeted), so it is news. And, this IS different than ordinary "spy-vs-spy". That normally applies to keeping track of national adversaries' military strength & asset positioning, political maneuvering, treaty talks, etc. This, in contrast, is straight up indust…
I'm uncomfortable about the fire, too. And I'd like to trust the firefighters to handle the fire, in this case. Not alarm non-firefighters, to go rushing in the way of firefighters, kicking in doors of houses that are not on fire, etc.
> kicking in doors of houses that are not on fire, etc.
I don't follow your metaphor.
Re: The US says Chinese spies are targeting Boston for its tech secrets
#16China has some areas where they innovate, but they primarily excel at copying.
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#18China has some areas where they innovate, but they primarily excel at copying .
All innovation starts with copying what came before. This is why liberal IP laws are so important to innovation. HN readers seem to understand this basic point quite well unless China is involved.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm uncomfortable about the fire, too. And I'd like to trust the firefighters to handle the fire, in this case. Not alarm non-firefighters, to go rushing in the way of firefighters, kicking in doors of houses that are not on fire, etc.
> kicking in doors of houses that are not on fire, etc. I don't follow your metaphor.
To hazard a guess, it should be up to to security/risk experts and the like to monitor and determine where the threats come from, set policies, and deny access accordingly. It shouldn't be up to citizen watchdogs to yank computers from people because they have a terminal up appear to be hacking things.
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#20As part of the discussion, the following article may be interesting too: