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Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Post by rchaud »

growt wrote: post #69
kickscondor wrote: post #17

While it's become impossible to browse the wider Web with Google, it's getting a bit easier elsewhere. A few helpful search engines: * https://millionshort.com/ * https://wiby.me/ * https://pinboard.in/search/ A recent movement to build personal Yahoo!-style directories: * https://href.cool/ (my own project) * https://indieseek.xyz/ * https://districts.neocities.org/ * https://the.dailywebthing.com/ The above resourc…

Looks like millionshort is already dead? Last and only blog post is over a year old. copyright is still 2018. Sad, it looked promising.

As long as the search engine still works, I<m happy. I<ve been using it quite a bit lately to dig up old musician interviews that either don<t exist on Google search or are buried behind mountains of keyword-optimized blogspam with that artist<s name.

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Post by rchaud »

visiblink wrote: post #78

I have been noticing (what appear to be) truncated search results in Google for some time now. At first I thought that was because I was accessing Google through Startpage. But that's not the case. Anyways, I find myself using Bing more and more often these days, because the search results dig more deeply into the 'obscure'. I'm not at all upset by this. It seems to me that as Google's results are not completely sati…

I miss those days. There seemed to be so much choice back then. I do remember throwing the same search into 3-4 search engines, not knowing if the reason I couldn<t find anything was because of the engine itself, or if there literally was no information about it on the Net...something that was a possibility back in 1999.

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Post by yorwba »

xorand wrote: post #28
xorand wrote: post #2

Google Scholar started to forget articles https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19599365

Downvoted against the evidence given. Anybody cares to explain why? Thank you.

I didn't downvote, but you link to a comment by yourself that isn't much longer and links to a blog post by yourself, and you already made a comment with basically the same content elsewhere in the thread. That's close enough to spammy self-promotion to get you downvoted irrespective of whether people agree with you

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Post by eruci »

xorand wrote: post #61
eruci wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also noticed that all our scholarly articles are gone from Google Scholar. The only thing there is our two highly cited books. https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=site%... We've come to rely on Google too much, so much that if you are not on Google you don't exist. That's a problem with researchers that are looking for articles to cite.

Is this recent? In my case I noticed it yesterday.

The articles are still on Google Search though: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Arepo.risat.org

Fingers crossed they don't get dropped from the main index too.

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Post by en-us »

kickscondor wrote: post #73
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're jumping from describing observable results to a state of mind or motive which you can't observe. > Then the worry was Blogrolls might be considered link farms so they slowly started to be phased out. Then the biggie: when Google deliberately filtered out all the free hosted sites from the SERP’s... That's all observable fact. Why? Because they were taking up space in the first 20 organic returns knocking out c…

I absolutely agree with you that whether Google is intentionally diabolical or not is up in the air. My reason for quoting Brad there is to succinctly recount a history where Google has been a menace (deliberate or not) to individual blogs and websites. Blog rolls were absolutely a great way to discover new blogs and were hardly “link farms” but were an incredibly valuable resource. (An equivalent to modern friend li…

> I spend a lot of my time cataloging the hidden corners of the Web and it is mostly individuals working on their personal Web projects.

That sounds interesting. Do you have a list of some interesting projects that you're willing to share?

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Post by founderling »

omaranto wrote: post #71
founderling wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is an example: http://www.gnoosic.com/discussion/metallica__5.html No matter how you search for the content on Google, nothing comes up: https://www.google.com/search?q="Metallica+only+played+2+son... DuckDuckGo has it: https://duckduckgo.com/?q="Metallica+only+played+2+songs+fro... I checked the wayback machine and the content has constantly been on that url for over 10 years. This is the first example of an ol…

Interestingly, even though DuckDuckGo finds the post, Bing doesn't seem to.

I do see it on Bing.

Also on the "Million Short" search engine mentioned by kickscondor:

https://millionshort.com/search?keywords=%22Metallica%20only...

I never saw that one. Do they have their own crawler?

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Post by specialist »

reaperducer wrote: post #15

I maintain two web sites that date back to 2003. They are still very active (thousands to tens of thousands of uniques per day), but I and my users have noticed that only the more recent content (2012+) shows up in Google. In a way I’m had to hear that Google is delisting the older content because I thought I was doing something wrong. But it’s still frustrating for my visitors because every few months I get a messag…

Is it possible to check your access logs, see if google how much google, others are spidering?

I know very little about google's SOP, but had the impression they periodically rescan stuff.

Re: It seems that Google is forgetting the old web

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Post by kyrra »

founderling wrote: post #53
degenerate wrote: post #13

This author is in his own little bubble and doesn't understand the vast amount of blog-repost spam that google has to deal with. The way their algorithm most likely deals with this is a mixture of domain rank + tenure... how long has this copy of this article existed on this domain, and can we be sure this is the original copy? The author says the article was removed in 2006 (" [...] posts, were not accessible anymor…

Here is an example: http://www.gnoosic.com/discussion/metallica__5.html No matter how you search for the content on Google, nothing comes up: https://www.google.com/search?q="Metallica+only+played+2+son... DuckDuckGo has it: https://duckduckgo.com/?q="Metallica+only+played+2+songs+fro... I checked the wayback machine and the content has constantly been on that url for over 10 years. This is the first example of an ol…

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awww.gnoosic.com+Metal...

Looks like only page 6 is indexed for some reason. The site owner would be able to check the webmaster tools on Google to see why.

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