I’m not sure how this will shake out in America versus Europe, but this seems as paradigm shifting as the civil war or the new deal. The next decade will be critical for Internet freedom.
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#22Assuming all the best intentions in the world, this will most certainly be abused. Where do they think all of the people they want to silence will go? They will no doubt go to the darker web and concentrate there.
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#23I find it baffling how western nations can't understand how they're now providing ideological justification to the same stances Russia and China are taking towards the internet.
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#24Assuming all the best intentions in the world, this will most certainly be abused. Where do they think all of the people they want to silence will go? They will no doubt go to the darker web and concentrate there.
The issue isn't really about silencing people, but removing their access to a mainstream audience.
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#26America is founded on the idea that personal determination and defending individual liberties are paramount to a moral society. But now it seems we’re taking our new digital plane of existence and giving up a lot of that self determination for convienience and protection from exposure to things we don’t like. I’m not sure how this will shake out in America versus Europe, but this seems as paradigm shifting as the civ…
I wonder what US citizen Anwar Al Awlaki would have said to that argument. The truth is that political free speech has limits, even for the United States.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/magazine/the-lessons-of-a...
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#27What is it with the obsession about "hate speech" in some random internet comment section? Report that user, ignore it, turn off the screen, whatever. How in the world is it worth spending actual policing resources on this nonsense?
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#28> But it also covers harmful behaviour that has a less clear legal definition such as cyber-bullying, trolling and the spread of fake news and disinformation. So, basically any site with user content can be fined/blocked at any time at the official's discretion.
This child-porn and terrorism is the propaganda catch-phrase to make people agree with it. Like the UK porn-filter. While it never will happen, this rule would mean that the BBC should be banned too. It published fake news that started the Iraq war, and one of the famous hosts was a child molester. Instead they will ban sites that disclose the military propaganda that is published by the government media. Will they n…
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#29This just draws a moat around existing behemoths that will protect them against future disruption.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
This child-porn and terrorism is the propaganda catch-phrase to make people agree with it. Like the UK porn-filter. While it never will happen, this rule would mean that the BBC should be banned too. It published fake news that started the Iraq war, and one of the famous hosts was a child molester. Instead they will ban sites that disclose the military propaganda that is published by the government media. Will they n…
Iraq is an interesting example because we only found out it was false after the fact. In the run up to the war, perhaps questioning the sources and information provided by the government would have been labeled fake news.
What? 100,000+ people marched in the street against it[0]. We knew the UK Government stole a student's essay for their "Dodgy Dossier" and tried to re-package it as intelligence before too[1].
We knew full well it was false before invasion. It didn't stop them.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War