I find it baffling how western nations can't understand how they're now providing ideological justification to the same stances Russia and China are taking towards the internet.
UK government proposes fine or block if website fails to tackle “online harms”
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#12OK lets say this article harmed me in some way. If I don't need to prove it then this law lets me shut down the BBC? How do you deal with thousands of "online harms"? If I do need to prove it, given the law is so vague on what that is, I can never succeed since big sites have fancy lawyers, and small sites will just go out of business, and the law is a waste of time.
I think you are over stretching. The lae has dealt for hundreds of years with idea that one person might harm another. Such laws tend to be a little vague, then build up case law, at least in the UK.
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#14Jeremy Wright, "Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport in the UK" penned an op-ed in CNN about this. [0] The closing line is particularly infuriating to me: "That is an objective on which the British Government, Sir Tim Berners-Lee and Mark Zuckerberg would all agree."
No, I don't think TBL would agree on this. The cited organization started by him explicitly calls for the opposite [1]:
- Ensure everyone can connect to the internet so that anyone, no matter who they are or where they live, can participate actively online.
- Keep all of the internet available, all of the time so that no one is denied their right to full internet access.
- Respect people’s fundamental right to privacy so everyone can use the internet freely, safely and without fear.
[0] https://us.cnn.com/2019/04/07/opinions/uk-government-online-...
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#15What is it with the obsession about "hate speech" in some random internet comment section? Report that user, ignore it, turn off the screen, whatever. How in the world is it worth spending actual policing resources on this nonsense?
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#16Assuming all the best intentions in the world, this will most certainly be abused. Where do they think all of the people they want to silence will go? They will no doubt go to the darker web and concentrate there.
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#17It's funny how this is such a popular topic on sites like HN who heavily censor users themselves based on their political opinion.
HN put shadow bans on hundreds of users for non-conforming posts. It seems like anyone who had a wrong stance on the whole "NPC meme" is affected, even if they only found it mildly amusing.
Source: I found it amusing, openly said so and I'm shadow banned on this IP.
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#18I find it baffling how western nations can't understand how they're now providing ideological justification to the same stances Russia and China are taking towards the internet.
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#19I find it baffling how western nations can't understand how they're now providing ideological justification to the same stances Russia and China are taking towards the internet.
It's not particularly baffling if you think that Western nations are taking these stances for approximately the same reasons as Russia and China are.
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#20> But it also covers harmful behaviour that has a less clear legal definition such as cyber-bullying, trolling and the spread of fake news and disinformation. So, basically any site with user content can be fined/blocked at any time at the official's discretion.
This child-porn and terrorism is the propaganda catch-phrase to make people agree with it. Like the UK porn-filter. While it never will happen, this rule would mean that the BBC should be banned too. It published fake news that started the Iraq war, and one of the famous hosts was a child molester. Instead they will ban sites that disclose the military propaganda that is published by the government media. Will they n…
thanks for sharing this phenomenal video. not from the US so I wasn't familiar with him. really enjoyed the tear-down and explanation on this propaganda campaign and how it works in contrast to before the internet.