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Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Post by JanSt »

fredsir wrote: post #80
JanSt wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to lower your LDL I'll advice you to eat nothing but white bread with slices of highly processed meat for a week. Will lower your HDL and increase Trigs too, but if LDL is your primary concern: Go for it. Here is the thing: it's not as easy as LDL = BAD. For older people higher LDL is actually protective, for women there seems to be nearly no effect whatsoever. Don't be fooled by simple answers.

> For older people higher LDL is actually protective Their bodies are decaying, and/or (mostly and) is in a state of sickness, and can't saturate its needs properly because of this, so a higher level of LDL can be indicative of them eating enough to counter their bodies increasing inabilities, or not being as sick, and so forth. It's a correlation, not a causation.

The MCE was a very controlled study that would disagree with your assesement.

Here is another review of the literature: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17512433.2018.1...

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Post by mrspuratic »

wtdata wrote: post #37
devilmoon wrote: post #26

Something to consider when talking about anything wheat/gluten related is that SO many people nowadays are starting to show signs of gluten intolerance/allergy and this might be due to glyphosate rather than the gluten itself. I come from Italy and trust me when I tell you that everyone and their uncles eat a diet that is 99% gluten-based, however until a few years ago nobody ever had problems with it. I am starting…

The reason so many people are showing a gluten allergy/intolerance is a fad propagated by social media. It has nothing to do with evolution - obviously - since it doesn't work in such a small time frame, and it has nothing to do with glyphosate, since glyphosate is used in most of the other (gluten free) crops as well.

In many climates wheat and oats are subject to pre-harvest dessication. Guess what herbicide is commonly used.

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Post by bananamansion »

Aromasin wrote: post #77
peteretep wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a shame there's so much pseudo-science around food intolerances, as I'd basically dismissed out of hand that I might be intolerant to some foods. As part of a separate diet, it's become clear to me that bread caused the life-long indigestion I've suffered, and that eggs were causing my skin to be bad, neither of which were links I'd made before. Also currently on a diet that isn't keto -- I'm eating a lot of veg…

I advise all my friends to do a "one food and work up" diet. I had massive problems with sleep, my skin, my bowel movements, general fatigue, long-onset DOMS after working out - the list goes on. These are completely gone now I pin-pointed the issue. I cut back everything, and added things one ingredient at a time. I started with only root veg, then added legumes, then brassicaceae veg (kale, cauliflower, broccoli et…

for how long did you eat the one food item for? ( is that all you would eat?)

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Post by Aromasin »

bananamansion wrote: post #94
Aromasin wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I advise all my friends to do a "one food and work up" diet. I had massive problems with sleep, my skin, my bowel movements, general fatigue, long-onset DOMS after working out - the list goes on. These are completely gone now I pin-pointed the issue. I cut back everything, and added things one ingredient at a time. I started with only root veg, then added legumes, then brassicaceae veg (kale, cauliflower, broccoli et…

for how long did you eat the one food item for? ( is that all you would eat?)

About 2 weeks with 'low risk' foods, and up to 4-6 weeks with 'high risk' foods - low risk being low FODMAP foods, and those that you rarely hear of allergies with. 'High risk' were things like nuts, which many people react very poorly to. I'd add them to the foods I already knew were safe to eat. So for example, I've recently taken to adding buckwheat (which is weirdly a fruit) to my stews and granola after workout. I'm slightly concerned that I may react badly, so I won't add anything new to my diet for a while until I'm 100% sure that it's not causing any under-lying inflammation. I'll mentally keep track of variables like my gym performance, mental acuity, ability to absorb new information, tiredness levels etc. I very much play it by ear though. If I'm especially stressed, or miss workouts, or suffering from any other thing to could contribute to me feeling tired or down, I'll lay off adding any new foods because it will skew 'results'.

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Post by mtw »

iamben wrote: post #2

I've been on a ketogenic diet for a year now and sleep has been the biggest thing. I was a light, restless sleeper and I noticed very quickly how how much better my sleep got. I'd fall asleep quicker and it feels (and tracks) deeper. I don't wake as much, sweat nearly as much when I sleep and wake up feeling far more rested. Sleep aside, I don't sweat nearly as much during the day and I've shaken almost most all the…

I recommend discussing with a medical professional if you sweat. Sweat means inflammation, fever or slight fever. It could be nothing but it could be also symptoms of pre-diabetes type 2, cancer or other chronic disease.

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Post by an_ko »

mtw wrote: post #96
iamben wrote: post #2

I've been on a ketogenic diet for a year now and sleep has been the biggest thing. I was a light, restless sleeper and I noticed very quickly how how much better my sleep got. I'd fall asleep quicker and it feels (and tracks) deeper. I don't wake as much, sweat nearly as much when I sleep and wake up feeling far more rested. Sleep aside, I don't sweat nearly as much during the day and I've shaken almost most all the…

I recommend discussing with a medical professional if you sweat. Sweat means inflammation, fever or slight fever. It could be nothing but it could be also symptoms of pre-diabetes type 2, cancer or other chronic disease.

It could also mean your duvet is too thick, or that it's summer...

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Post by mtw »

an_ko wrote: post #97
mtw wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recommend discussing with a medical professional if you sweat. Sweat means inflammation, fever or slight fever. It could be nothing but it could be also symptoms of pre-diabetes type 2, cancer or other chronic disease.

It could also mean your duvet is too thick, or that it's summer...

yes, that's true. But he also states that he sweats more depending on food. That means his body has an inflammation reaction towards certain foods. Could be sugar/refined grains (which untreated could lead to diabetes type ii), other people have inflammation when eating BBQ red meat (which increases risks of cancer)

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Post by COGlory »

Aromasin wrote: post #77
peteretep wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a shame there's so much pseudo-science around food intolerances, as I'd basically dismissed out of hand that I might be intolerant to some foods. As part of a separate diet, it's become clear to me that bread caused the life-long indigestion I've suffered, and that eggs were causing my skin to be bad, neither of which were links I'd made before. Also currently on a diet that isn't keto -- I'm eating a lot of veg…

I advise all my friends to do a "one food and work up" diet. I had massive problems with sleep, my skin, my bowel movements, general fatigue, long-onset DOMS after working out - the list goes on. These are completely gone now I pin-pointed the issue. I cut back everything, and added things one ingredient at a time. I started with only root veg, then added legumes, then brassicaceae veg (kale, cauliflower, broccoli et…

This sounds very similar to Mast Cell Activation Syndrome and it might be worth your time to ask a doctor about it if you haven't already.

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Post by happy4crazy »

iamben wrote: post #2

I've been on a ketogenic diet for a year now and sleep has been the biggest thing. I was a light, restless sleeper and I noticed very quickly how how much better my sleep got. I'd fall asleep quicker and it feels (and tracks) deeper. I don't wake as much, sweat nearly as much when I sleep and wake up feeling far more rested. Sleep aside, I don't sweat nearly as much during the day and I've shaken almost most all the…

Interesting! I have the opposite experience. I've gone on a bunch of very low-carb diets, maybe ten at this point (not sure if they were exactly ketogenic or not), and I've enjoyed them. But every time I try low-carb, my sleep gets extremely light (I'll wake up 3 or 4 times a night), I sleep a couple hours less than normal, and I get weirdly vivid dreams. It's always the weird sleep that makes me quit the diet.
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