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Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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I've been on a ketogenic diet for a year now and sleep has been the biggest thing. I was a light, restless sleeper and I noticed very quickly how how much better my sleep got. I'd fall asleep quicker and it feels (and tracks) deeper. I don't wake as much, sweat nearly as much when I sleep and wake up feeling far more rested. Sleep aside, I don't sweat nearly as much during the day and I've shaken almost most all the…

Maybe you want to consider to switch to a whole food plant based diet. Other than the other „lifestyle“ diets such as low carb, the plant based is actually backed by science. A good source is nutritionfacts.org and the book „how not to die“ by the same author. If you asked me to switch two months ago, I‘d say no way. But the science behind it convinced me to try it and it is so much easier than expected.

If the science is a private website and a book by the same person, it's not really "science".

And by mixing and matching different research papers, any diet peddler/author/etc can make it appear as their specific diet is "backed by science" (when it's just a bunch of disparate papers in its favor, without context -- e.g. later responses to those papers, quality and reproducibility, papers that study the exact opposite claims and also work, etc).

The only real science is not in studies (that are a dime a dozen, of widely different quality, and most are shoddily done and discredited by later studies), but in what's accepted by the nutritionist/medical professionals as nutrition 101.

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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>Foods to Avoid >Fruit: All fruit, except small portions of berries like strawberries >Foods to Eat >Meat: Red meat, steak, ham, sausage, bacon, chicken and turkey Thank you but no, whoever made this diet doesn't know much about healthy food.

You won't find any centenarians that eat vegan. India is one of the countries with the highest diabetes numbers and vegan. Japan, on the other hand, has the most centenarian and they eat basically unprocessed food and low carb.

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Sounds super interesting. Can you provide a link or a quick list of the things that you eat for your diet. I’m currently having great difficulty sleeping due to IBS.

Do you drink? I gave up drinking for a few years for weight reasons, and my IBS fixed itself, and didn't come back when I started drinking again.

I pretty much don't. Although I like to taste a glass of different types of beer when I go to a new region (here in Europe). I have noticed that it does trigger the IBS symptoms roughly 40% of the time. Thanks for the comment. I think I'll give up on the tasting because like the parent mentioned IBS is miserable.

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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Something to consider when talking about anything wheat/gluten related is that SO many people nowadays are starting to show signs of gluten intolerance/allergy and this might be due to glyphosate rather than the gluten itself. I come from Italy and trust me when I tell you that everyone and their uncles eat a diet that is 99% gluten-based, however until a few years ago nobody ever had problems with it. I am starting…

The reason so many people are showing a gluten allergy/intolerance is a fad propagated by social media. It has nothing to do with evolution - obviously - since it doesn't work in such a small time frame, and it has nothing to do with glyphosate, since glyphosate is used in most of the other (gluten free) crops as well.

>it has nothing to do with glyphosate, since glyphosate is used in most of the other (gluten free) crops as well.

That would be relevant if people ate those crops at the same quantities (and at the same processing) as they do gluten containing crops...

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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So much keto talk here yet no one mentions blood markers or LDL (bad cholesterol). What ever happened to good'ol'data approach? It's pretty obvious that altering ones diet can have profound effects. But a scientific approach to diet is a far safer approach. Ever tried to lower your bad cholesterol? So a group of friends who are data obsessed tried keto after another group of friends raved on about it like it was a si…

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Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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I've found with me that, after trying keto for ages and loving how I felt but hating the diet itself, I managed to pin point the issue down to grains. Any form of grain, be it rice, wheat, barley, oats etc, all seemed to mess me up big style. I'n now on a diet of mostly fruit, nuts, beans, seeds and tubers and I'm better than I was on keto on almost every measurable factor. I think cutting out the carbs initially imp…

Maybe it is glycemic load? I completely agree, but I get hit hard by sugars, bread, mashed potatoes and cheap fries (really good fries I justify).

If you still want to enjoy fries, get an air fryer and just spray sliced potatoes with a very small amount of olive oil. Then cook only up to temperature of 250F/120C to prevent acrylamide from forming (it might take 30-60 minutes to be finished).

I used to be hit hard by regular fries (was feeling sick for a day, felt them staying in my stomach for a while etc.) until I switched to the aforementioned method. Taste is almost the same, but digestion is unproblematic now.

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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So much keto talk here yet no one mentions blood markers or LDL (bad cholesterol). What ever happened to good'ol'data approach? It's pretty obvious that altering ones diet can have profound effects. But a scientific approach to diet is a far safer approach. Ever tried to lower your bad cholesterol? So a group of friends who are data obsessed tried keto after another group of friends raved on about it like it was a si…

If you want to lower your LDL I'll advice you to eat nothing but white bread with slices of highly processed meat for a week. Will lower your HDL and increase Trigs too, but if LDL is your primary concern: Go for it. Here is the thing: it's not as easy as LDL = BAD. For older people higher LDL is actually protective, for women there seems to be nearly no effect whatsoever. Don't be fooled by simple answers.

> If you want to lower your LDL I'll advice you to eat nothing but white bread with slices of highly processed meat for a week.

That sounds like dubious advice. On what basis would you recommend that?

There are healthier ways to have low LDL, namely just eating whole plant foods. A variety of fruits, vegetables, beans, grains, nuts and seeds, and spices is my recommendation.

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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So much keto talk here yet no one mentions blood markers or LDL (bad cholesterol). What ever happened to good'ol'data approach? It's pretty obvious that altering ones diet can have profound effects. But a scientific approach to diet is a far safer approach. Ever tried to lower your bad cholesterol? So a group of friends who are data obsessed tried keto after another group of friends raved on about it like it was a si…

If you want to lower your LDL I'll advice you to eat nothing but white bread with slices of highly processed meat for a week. Will lower your HDL and increase Trigs too, but if LDL is your primary concern: Go for it. Here is the thing: it's not as easy as LDL = BAD. For older people higher LDL is actually protective, for women there seems to be nearly no effect whatsoever. Don't be fooled by simple answers.

> For older people higher LDL is actually protective, for women there seems to be nearly no effect whatsoever. Don't be fooled by simple answers.

Your last statement is in direct contradiction with all of your previous simple answers. Where is there evidence of the protective effect of LDL?

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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I've been on a ketogenic diet for a year now and sleep has been the biggest thing. I was a light, restless sleeper and I noticed very quickly how how much better my sleep got. I'd fall asleep quicker and it feels (and tracks) deeper. I don't wake as much, sweat nearly as much when I sleep and wake up feeling far more rested. Sleep aside, I don't sweat nearly as much during the day and I've shaken almost most all the…

I've found with me that, after trying keto for ages and loving how I felt but hating the diet itself, I managed to pin point the issue down to grains. Any form of grain, be it rice, wheat, barley, oats etc, all seemed to mess me up big style. I'n now on a diet of mostly fruit, nuts, beans, seeds and tubers and I'm better than I was on keto on almost every measurable factor. I think cutting out the carbs initially imp…

Super helpful advice, thank you

Re: Turning the Puzzle Sideways: Sleep, Diet and the Brain-Gut Connection

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>Foods to Avoid >Fruit: All fruit, except small portions of berries like strawberries >Foods to Eat >Meat: Red meat, steak, ham, sausage, bacon, chicken and turkey Thank you but no, whoever made this diet doesn't know much about healthy food.

You won't find any centenarians that eat vegan. India is one of the countries with the highest diabetes numbers and vegan. Japan, on the other hand, has the most centenarian and they eat basically unprocessed food and low carb.

Absolutely untrue. Adventists of the 7th day eat vegan afaik, and people in Okinawa ate very little meat. Both groups are famous for producing more centenarians than the average (global) population.

https://www.seventhdayadventistdiet.com/

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