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Foods for healthier people and a healthier planet [pdf]

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Re: Foods for healthier people and a healthier planet [pdf]

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Of the five Guiding Principles on page 52 only about 1.5 of them are primarily concerned with the nutrition content of the food. The rest are mostly focused on their environmental impact.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. And clearly that's aligned with the mission of the WWF. But I think you'd get a much different list if it was just about maximizing the health of the eater. E.g. meat.

When I choose food at the grocery store I'm focused on which are better for me, not Earth. If I were convinced that there is a genuine discrepancy between those goals, I'd likely still choose me. Am I the bad guy?

Re: Foods for healthier people and a healthier planet [pdf]

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I mean a lot of these are readily available (lentils, walnuts, fava beans, kale, quinoa)

Yeah those few pretty much wrap it up. I'm never eating algae or cacti.

That's a dumb attitude. Cacti produce some amazing fruits that I bet even a simpleton like you would enjoy. I eat about 60% of this list on a weekly basis, so some countries (not America) do actually have access to healthy foods already.

Re: Foods for healthier people and a healthier planet [pdf]

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It's worth noting for anyone that advocates this sort of diet that it is a luxury. Many people mention that you can make good food on such a diet, but it is doubtless time-consuming. What of those who work by the hour? And the ingredients are expensive. Many of the fancy foods on here come from Whole Foods, not HEB. Even if they become affordable, the time aspect is still important; most don't want to spend 2 hours c…

Do you eat equivalent amounts of protein when you eat less meat?

I've started eating a lot less meat, but typically through limiting how much of a meal it comprises vs no-meat meals.

If I replace meat with greek yogurt or beans, I haven't noticed much difference.

Re: Foods for healthier people and a healthier planet [pdf]

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> Eating less common varieties of vegetables... drives demand which will increase the variety of types of crops grown, which, in turn, makes the food system more resilient

I get this, but it seems fundamentally at odds with economies of scale which surely the natural market would gravitate towards. Seems like government intervention would be necessary here to overcome the externalities that growing a single variety at extreme quantities creates?

Re: Foods for healthier people and a healthier planet [pdf]

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I bookmarked this a couple weeks ago, to help with your own note-taking, here's the list: # Algae Laver seaweed Wakame seaweed Beans & Pulses Adzuki beans Black turtle beans Broad beans Bambara groundnuts Cowpeas Lentils # Cacti Nopales # Cereals & Grains Amaranth Buckwheat Finger millet Fonio Knorasan wheat Quinoa Spelt # Fruit Vegetables Pumpkin flowers Okra Orange tomatoes # Leaf Greens Beet greens Broccoli rabe K…

Much easier to read. Thank you

Re: Foods for healthier people and a healthier planet [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah those few pretty much wrap it up. I'm never eating algae or cacti.

That's a dumb attitude. Cacti produce some amazing fruits that I bet even a simpleton like you would enjoy. I eat about 60% of this list on a weekly basis, so some countries (not America) do actually have access to healthy foods already.

I'm not a simpleton, I'm just not gullible enough to eat arbitrary exotic food reccommended by a big company when everything I need is in stores around me.

Re: Foods for healthier people and a healthier planet [pdf]

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post #27

It's worth noting for anyone that advocates this sort of diet that it is a luxury. Many people mention that you can make good food on such a diet, but it is doubtless time-consuming. What of those who work by the hour? And the ingredients are expensive. Many of the fancy foods on here come from Whole Foods, not HEB. Even if they become affordable, the time aspect is still important; most don't want to spend 2 hours c…

Beans and grains are generally pretty cheap and available pretty widely. You can make a lot at a time, and stick it in a tupperware container to later combine/season. Eating beans/grains can also be quite filling.

I personally grow tired of eating such things after a while, but I don't think they are expensive/time-consuming and they do satisfy hunger.

Re: Foods for healthier people and a healthier planet [pdf]

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post #27

It's worth noting for anyone that advocates this sort of diet that it is a luxury. Many people mention that you can make good food on such a diet, but it is doubtless time-consuming. What of those who work by the hour? And the ingredients are expensive. Many of the fancy foods on here come from Whole Foods, not HEB. Even if they become affordable, the time aspect is still important; most don't want to spend 2 hours c…

I've been on Huel for a few months and find it keeps me full very well. Rice & pea protein with plenty of fiber. I still love good meat, but if I wanted to make sure I stayed full for hours at a time, it would no longer be my first choice.

Re: Foods for healthier people and a healthier planet [pdf]

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean a lot of these are readily available (lentils, walnuts, fava beans, kale, quinoa)

Yeah those few pretty much wrap it up. I'm never eating algae or cacti.

Why not? My local mexican place does interesting things with cacti, very tasty. If you've ever had sushi you've probably had seaweed..which is part of the algae family.
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