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Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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If it was written in Angular, that sounds about right.

If im not wrong it was developed using GWT.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Wave

It was open sourced as Apache Wave. Yes, it was gwt.

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Apart from what’s already been mentioned (bundles, general UI, speed etc), the killer feature for me was how Reminders were integrated into the email itself. When an email came in that I couldn’t quickly resolve and move on, I’d write the short ToDo to myself about what I specifically need to do. Back in Gmail I go to my flagged/starred emails and I know I’m supposed to do something about the email, but many times I’…

Maybe you can add a Draft to the thread with a note to yourself about what the next action should be.

As a workaround, I kind of like that idea!

The other option is to keep the next actions in a separate list (or app), with a link to the email. Then you face the problem of context switching between 2 apps, so yours is better.

I just with that I didn't have to open the email to see the note I'd written myself; Inbox was so clever that the reminder was right under the subject line.

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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Google's Nexus 7 might qualify. A really great tablet at an affordable price that got one minor refresh then was cancelled. I see Palm already mentioned. Neo Geo. Obviously everything I have done was great--too advanced for its time to succeed.

And the Nexus 5 phone. Lightweight, durable plastic body, good hardware, not ridiculously large... I still havent seen a spiritual successor

We had 3 different Nexus 5X phones die via a bootloop. All bought from different vendors.

100% death rate.

And yes, I know there was a "fix" released last year. Didn't work for any of them.

Great cheap phones other than that. Really good cameras on them.

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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Ubuntu's Unity desktop. People really hated it because (IMHO) it had a really rocky launch. Ubuntu replaced a very usable GNOME 2.x desktop with an alpha-quality replacement. And Canonical was riding high from having "won" the Linux for desktop game and was pushing their weight around, giving the impression that they were ignoring the feedback from their users. Unity wasn't without its missteps. But it matured quite…

Why not try KDE? I am a long-time KDE user and very happy with it. The flexible Plasma desktop might give you what you are missing from unity. There seem to be some tutorials on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kde+unity+like

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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Excluding some of the mentioned ones like Google Reader, ICQ, Winamp etc. All them were at one point in time Champion in their own respective domain. They succeed at the time, so I don't see how it is a failure. They could just be more accurately described as killed or failed to move forward and compete. So far Google Wave, Pepple Smart Watch, XMPP, Unity, WebOS, Zune, Windows Phone. I don't see any of these as "grea…

With respect to Windows phone, I only heard good things about the UX from users. I heard many complaints about the lack of apps though.

The Nokia 920 is still the phone I've been the happiest with, of all I've had. A catchy design, a screen with a sunlight mode that worked, amazing call quality, great photo quality, great video quality, and impressive audio recording.

On top of that, the Windows Phone UX was so good in making you aware of everything at a glance. While Android makes you unlock the phone then swipe down to see your notifications, Windows Phone simply got all the info you needed on the home screen. Quicker, simpler, better.

Shame about the apps, yes. Google actively tried to kill Windows Phone by not making apps for it and cutting API access from lots of 3rd party apps. And while the Nokia apps were extremely good (Nokia Cinemagraph was so ahead of its time, seriously), that's not enough to sustain a whole mobile OS in this era of closed apps and walled sites.

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Commodore Amiga? It took several years for the PC world to have a similar capable standard machine?

Its run was short (less than a decade), but during the late 80s it did fairly well: reportedly 5-6M units [0] sold. It was popular in Europe, less so in the US; similar to Sony MiniDisc, which was actually successful globally during its run, but just not in the US.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga#Commercial_success

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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Nokia linux tablets/phones n800x series and their Maemo OS

you reminded me of the nokia lumia 920. great design, camera, and screen, but hampered by a nascent os. nokia really seemed (seems?) to understand hardware.

Software too. The Nokia-made apps on the 920 were all extremely polished and worked perfectly with the rest of the phone.

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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You might want to actually look at the sales figures for the Atari 800. Atari and Commodore were outselling Apple in their day. Commodore did indeed outsell Atari, but Atari wasn't a failure.

Now that's a good question. The Atari 8-bit FAQ says 'Atari had sold 35,000 400/800 computers through 1980' and since it was obviously put together by Atari enthusiasts I wouldn't expect it to shoot low on the estimate. But elsewhere, a figure nearly an order of magnitude higher has been suggested, which would indeed have outsold Apple. Which figure is correct?

Well, the Atari 8-bit FAQ is just off by a magnitude. http://www.retrocomputing.net/info/siti/total_share.html is ok and well sourced but they do skip some models from Atari and Commodore.
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