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Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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dotCloud and a lot of other PAAS platforms. Its ironic since with Docker + Kubernetes, folks essentially are recreating their own PAAS from scratch, but wouldn't use a prebuilt one...

Docker only exists because it was developed at dotcloud. I'm quite happy with Docker, and certainly wouldn't trade it to have dotcloud back.

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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The Atari 800. Beautiful design, but initially overbuilt and too expensive for the market; I suspect two different home gaming machines from the same company also confused consumers; later, when a lower-cost version was released, Commodore had already started gobbling up market share.

You might want to actually look at the sales figures for the Atari 800. Atari and Commodore were outselling Apple in their day. Commodore did indeed outsell Atari, but Atari wasn't a failure.

Now that's a good question. The Atari 8-bit FAQ says 'Atari had sold 35,000 400/800 computers through 1980' and since it was obviously put together by Atari enthusiasts I wouldn't expect it to shoot low on the estimate. But elsewhere, a figure nearly an order of magnitude higher has been suggested, which would indeed have outsold Apple. Which figure is correct?

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Google Wave. At work we use Slack, Email, Google Docs, etc. We’re never quite happy with how things work - what should be email vs Slack, at what point should a a Slack conversation become an email conversation to be visible to more people, when should that turn into a doc for a more formal review process, etc. We’re trialling Notion for some things and it’s good. What should be a Wiki? Whenever we have any of these…

What it would take to built a similar product now? Ten years later, the tooling and ecosystem for such complicated SPAs is much better, so it should be at least a little bit less of an effort, right?

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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Steinberger guitars. They were brilliant to play, they were incredibly lightweight, they were near-indestructible, they could stay in tune for weeks, but they were just too weird to be anything more than a fad. It didn't help that Ned Steinberger had questionable business skills, they never really got manufacturing costs under control, but the basic design was utterly brilliant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steinber…

I feel the same way about Travis Bean guitars. You can't buy a good TB500, which was a truly great and functional guitar design, on the used market without paying a fortune.

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Excluding some of the mentioned ones like Google Reader, ICQ, Winamp etc. All them were at one point in time Champion in their own respective domain. They succeed at the time, so I don't see how it is a failure. They could just be more accurately described as killed or failed to move forward and compete. So far Google Wave, Pepple Smart Watch, XMPP, Unity, WebOS, Zune, Windows Phone. I don't see any of these as "grea…

With respect to Windows phone, I only heard good things about the UX from users. I heard many complaints about the lack of apps though.

How many times have you opened an iOS app to see what the red notification was and then realised you already knew what it was? It happens to me all the time, with windows phone the widget told me as the notification so I saved a lot of opening and closing apps.

iOS does feel like a very dated os these days.

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Segway. They managed to keep it secret until the official announcement, and at the time you wouldn’t have believed it if you hadn’t actually seen it (video of it on network news, that is).

Well Segway itself may not have succeeded, but I see more and more people roaming the city on self-balancing scooters.

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XMPP. The entire chat landscape is a damn travesty right now. First Facebook disappeared behind it’s own walls, then google... I really miss the days where I could use one client to chat with all my contacts. I honestly think Im in contact with less people now because everyone dropped support for open protocols.

I'm hoping Matrix (matrix.org) will have more success.

Try it with no login in the browser, and any platform really, signup on their complimentary server takes literally 3 seconds.

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I own several. I'd trust any gear used by Allan Holdsworth. Not that it will help sound like him! I'm digging the recent explosion of headless guitars, Strandberg et al. I started playing on a Strat-shaped body so anything different throws me off. Even the bridge position on a Les Paul type body spooks me. I guess one of the reasons headless/compact guitars don't go outside of the niche of progressive/fusion circles…

I don't know whether this counts as `cool' or not (David Bowie's Tin Machine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtOjC0NLFw

For a while, Sting also played a Steinberger bass with The Police. I believe Andy Summers, their guitarist, also had a Steinberger guitar but didn't play it in concert, only in the studio IIRC.

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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Android touchscreen phones with physical slide-out qwerty (though I would have preferred Colemak ;)) keyboards like the Sony Xperia Mini Pro. So much quicker and more comfortable to touch-type on (ironic, no? :)), I barely ever made any typos.

The latest Blackberry branded phones are quite good. I've just bought a Blackberry Key One and it's just as good as my HTC Desire Z from way back when.
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