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Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

#181
WebOS.

When I used it, I saw it as a blend between Android and iOS.

It had the beauty, polish, and responsiveness that I loved on iPhones, but had the developer options and open community that Android had. It was a great product, and it's a shame that now we really only have two choices for smartphone operating system, WebOS being neither.

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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turntable.fm was super fun! wish they had something like this now.

I came here to say this. I and multiple friends were active users and mourned its demise. Wondering whether it was due to lack of demand or operational issues. If it was the latter, that implies the concept might in fact work under a stronger team (or one with deeper pockets). I’d love to see a company like Spotify try to resurrect it. Or even (shudder) Apple. On the one hand, it’d be a drag to have such a lovely ser…

I think it was due to licensing. No source (just a thought), but I could imagine a startup like turntable.fm being pretty simple to build, the trouble comes when the legal portion of the entertainment industry gets involved.

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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Google's Nexus 7 might qualify. A really great tablet at an affordable price that got one minor refresh then was cancelled. I see Palm already mentioned. Neo Geo. Obviously everything I have done was great--too advanced for its time to succeed.

I still use my Nexus 7 almost daily! I have the refreshed model with the 1080p screen, and it's still going strong. Not the fastest or most up to date tablet, but internet browsing, email, and basic things all still work flawlessly.

Great product, competitive sector.

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

#184

WinAmp ICQ

You can get a relatively recent beta for WinAmp. It was leaked online and the current owners of the software (Radionomy) chose to release the beta[1] following the leak so that people could download from an official source rather than resorting to piracy and grey-area download sites[2].

They claim to be working on a new version but, in the meantime, the leaked/released beta is a perfectly serviceable version of the software.

[1]: http://www.winamp.com/

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winamp#Winamp_5.8

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

#186

minidisc didn't exactly flop but it should have been a lot bigger than it was. Great hardware. If Sony hadn't insisted on their ATRAC and drmed it to hell it would have been much more competitive.

I miss how reliable magneto optical storage in a cartridge is. The physics behind it mean the data should be readable for a very long time.

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

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post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The game Warframe uses IRC for its in-game chat. They've obfuscated the authentication though, so it's not possible to just login with something like irssi. I'm sure other games do this as well.

Not a game but twitch chat is basically IRC. You can indeed login with irssi if you wanted to.

IMG its true https://dev.twitch.tv/docs/irc/

Long live IRC

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

#189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You likely have commented that multiple times, since it seems like a copy/paste to a completely different discussion. It isn't relevant here. Microsoft made the apps for Google, then when that failed released them themselves with no expectation of Google taking over/paying for support. So your point isn't at all relevant to what happened in the Windows Phone situation. As I said right at the start of my post: Google…

You missed that they had Google apps, then MS threw out the platform and replaced it with something non-competitive and very confused about what an app was or could be. The apps that MS made for third parties were rush jobs and poorly maintained over time, and because the Silverlight runtime was not up to the job, performed poorly. They did not well represent their respective brands. They were nowhere near the qualit…

> The apps that MS made for third parties were rush jobs and poorly maintained over time

The Google apps Microsoft produced worked extremely well right up until the day they got pulled due to legal threats. I'm not sure what this is a reference to.

> because the Silverlight runtime was not up to the job, performed poorly.

XNA ("Silverlight") was only one of the platforms Windows Phone supported. It also had support for Windows Phone App Studio and the Windows Runtime. The Windows Runtime never had poor performing characteristics and was the most popular platform after WP8's release.

> Would you really want a bad app, that cannot do what your real offerings do, out there representing you, with your name and logo?

No, but since that wasn't the reality I don't see the relevance of the question. It is largely a strawman situation where the apps were bad (they weren't), had bad performance (they didn't), and were developed using "Silverlight" (they weren't).

You say you post this information a lot on this site. It is unfortunately you didn't research before the first time you posted it.

Re: Ask HN: Which great products didn't succeed?

#190

Chevy Volt. I wouldn't necessarily say it wasn't successful, but GM is killing it, and to me the irony is that I think it is a much better option for 90% of people than an all-electric vehicle. Yes, all-electric is the future, but right now being able to be on battery 95% of the time, but never having range anxiety because I can always get gas when needed, is wonderful. I can go on long trips and never worry about ha…

I bought one. It had terrible battery that gave me less and less range on every charge. Resale value was non existent. Piece of garbage.

To each their own I guess. I bought a 2015 Volt used and have owned it for nearly a year and a half and it's the best car I've owned. I consistently get 40-42 miles a charge.
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