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Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#111

Post by pvg »

mindcrime wrote: post #109
pvg wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are, there is no maybe about it. The plain English meaning of 'it was submitted for our comment' is not 'everyone is required to comment on every story'. That's just a misinterpretation of your own.

The plain English meaning of 'it was submitted for our comment' is not 'everyone is required to comment on every story'. In the context of how it was used, that was absolutely the implication. Tptacek submitted that as the rationale to explain his commenting, when he (obviously) could have easily skipped the whole thread. Ultimately there was no real reason for him to bother commenting in the first place...

The context is, one person asks another why they are commenting which is one of the oldest, malignantly dimwitted things to say in an online forum. The other person, mindful of the site guidelines and out of a robust and abiding sense of decorum replies that, this being a commenting place, they comment.

Then you come along and want to interpret that reply to actually mean 'Everything permitted on HN is compulsory'. That is, at a polite minimum, pointedly silly.

Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#112

Post by mindcrime »

pvg wrote: post #111
mindcrime wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The plain English meaning of 'it was submitted for our comment' is not 'everyone is required to comment on every story'. In the context of how it was used, that was absolutely the implication. Tptacek submitted that as the rationale to explain his commenting, when he (obviously) could have easily skipped the whole thread. Ultimately there was no real reason for him to bother commenting in the first place...

The context is, one person asks another why they are commenting which is one of the oldest, malignantly dimwitted things to say in an online forum. The other person, mindful of the site guidelines and out of a robust and abiding sense of decorum replies that, this being a commenting place, they comment. Then you come along and want to interpret that reply to actually mean 'Everything permitted on HN is compulsory'. T…

Then you come along and want to interpret that reply to actually mean 'Everything permitted on HN is compulsory'. That is, at a polite minimum, pointedly silly.

No, that is, at a polite minimum, your mistaken interpretation. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with what I actually said.

Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#113

Post by dang »

chairman_kw wrote: post #98

Of course the submission disappears in true corporate controlled fashion once uncomfortable comments appear. Must be a fun place to work at. Is Cloudflare tracking this post?

I'm not sure exactly what chain of ideas leads to a conjecture like that, but I can tell you what actually happened. First, a bunch of users flagged the submission. Second, a moderator penalized the submission as not intellectually interesting.

Since the moderator was me I can tell you with high confidence that the moderator's decision was based on superficial pattern matching and did not involve any evaluation of corporate comfortableness. Also the idea of doing that nauseates the moderator at least as much as it does you.

Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#114

Post by libria »

pvg wrote: post #111
mindcrime wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The plain English meaning of 'it was submitted for our comment' is not 'everyone is required to comment on every story'. In the context of how it was used, that was absolutely the implication. Tptacek submitted that as the rationale to explain his commenting, when he (obviously) could have easily skipped the whole thread. Ultimately there was no real reason for him to bother commenting in the first place...

The context is, one person asks another why they are commenting which is one of the oldest, malignantly dimwitted things to say in an online forum. The other person, mindful of the site guidelines and out of a robust and abiding sense of decorum replies that, this being a commenting place, they comment. Then you come along and want to interpret that reply to actually mean 'Everything permitted on HN is compulsory'. T…

> one person

Me

> asks another why they are commenting which is one of the oldest, malignantly dimwitted things to say in an online forum.

Not following. There are many threads on the front page throughout the day. My usual MO is to read and comment on what I find interesting, not the converse. I find it strange to immerse myself in posts that make me "pretty uncomfortable". Like those people who tell me how much they dislike IPA's while continually sipping it.

> he other person, mindful of the site guidelines

I avoided mentioning it explicitly b/c tptacek is a regular contributor, but do some of his comments run afoul of "Please don't impute astroturfing or shillage"? Also "Why is this on HN?" is one of the oldest and least useful questions on HN since it's obvious things are voted up b/c some group found it interesting. If there's a serious problem with it, just use the flag. I expected better of him, honestly.

Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#115

Post by [deleted] »

steveklabnik wrote: post #25
the_narrator wrote: post #24

This post has hit number one on the front page, so I assume I am out of the loop; why is this significant?

For one, this post is more than "I got a job"; there's a lot of words spilled about the evolution of web application platforms. For another, I've been posting here for ten years. https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders has me at #19. (I'm a fan of patio11's "this is basically an odometer" take on that, of course.) My "I'm leaving Mozilla" post got a lot of attention too, as well as most of my previous job change posts.…

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Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#116

Post by jgrahamc »

chairman_kw wrote: post #98

Of course the submission disappears in true corporate controlled fashion once uncomfortable comments appear. Must be a fun place to work at. Is Cloudflare tracking this post?

This is such a weird comment. Whatever makes you think Cloudflare would want this post to disappear?

Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#117

Post by pvg »

libria wrote: post #114
pvg wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The context is, one person asks another why they are commenting which is one of the oldest, malignantly dimwitted things to say in an online forum. The other person, mindful of the site guidelines and out of a robust and abiding sense of decorum replies that, this being a commenting place, they comment. Then you come along and want to interpret that reply to actually mean 'Everything permitted on HN is compulsory'. T…

> one person Me > asks another why they are commenting which is one of the oldest, malignantly dimwitted things to say in an online forum. Not following. There are many threads on the front page throughout the day. My usual MO is to read and comment on what I find interesting, not the converse. I find it strange to immerse myself in posts that make me "pretty uncomfortable". Like those people who tell me how much the…

My usual MO is to read and comment on what I find interesting, not the converse.

It's possible to write about how one is perplexed by what others find interesting, in an interesting way.

Also "Why is this on HN?"

It's not a 'why is this on HN' comment.

I expected better of him, honestly.

wat.

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