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What grey area? It was bad enough they decided to send him home.
It's bad because MIT reprimanded him for "scrap[ing] every piece of internal data and code in the lab and sent it back home"? That's felonious territory. He should have been deported indefinitely.
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Its the post we are responding to though. And the notion, that if you could chose, Europeans would prefer to be spied on by the US is absurd. My posts are about nothing more. The threat analysis for most Europeans is rather straight forward on what will have a larger potential to have a larger negative impact on your live.
> The threat analysis for most Europeans is rather straight forward on what will have a larger potential to have a larger negative impact on your live. Please expound on that threat analysis.
And even if you assume a perfectly working surveillance system, there are still people being targeted for legal behavior, like being employed by someone who has business relations with Iran or something trivial like having your PayPal account canceled for transactions to Cuba.
Where as with china, what exactly is the possible personal impact for non Chinese citizens? Having my bosses IP stolen? Not being allowed to travel to China?
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Sounds like a FOIA request should fix that "open source" problem. If its software developed by or for a governmental agency in the US, we as citizens have the right to access it as the public domain work it is. The recent ORCA fare enforcement app shenanigans with Sound Transit is a great example, even with a contracting company as a layer of indirection for developing said software doesn't escape said code's FOIAbil…
>ORCA fare enforcement app shenanigans with Sound Transit Can you please provide a source for the details?
Edit: Litigation is here: https://kevin.wallace.seattle.wa.us/v/vix/
First off, I am not pro or anti USA or China. Just curious and hoping to have a constructive dialogue. What moral high ground is USA on in the Snowden era? Why trust Cisco or Apple or Google or Facebook or Microsoft in USA's Prism? With the "Five Eyes", how to trust Nokia or Ericsson or Blackberry? What ethical high-ground are the tax evading tech giants on? Lets not forget how the pharma mobs are gaming the patent s…
Google, Microsoft, and Facebook are American companies. In all honesty I'd rather have an American company spy on American people, rather than a Chinese company doing so.
China is catching up with tech and their government is totalitarian. Privacy doesn't exist in China, and it could be scary to think what they would do with data gathered from spying on us. I don't want any involvement of theirs in American schools or companies.
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The US is not an imperialist power? Are you kidding me? We have military bases and troops all over the world. Our black ops interferes in the internal affairs of any country it wants with virtually no oversight. We use our economic might to twist arms and bend other countries to our will. We have a ridiculous treaty with Cuba that cedes use of Guantanamo Bay to us in perpetuity for $2000 a year. We pretty much invade…
> We pretty much invaded Iraq for the oil. I have heard that before, but did we ever get any oil out of it? Was there ever any chance of getting any oil out of it?
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It's fine. We're not in China, we have room for disagreement.
I'm not pro-China by any means, but I think your comment leaves very little room for any civil discussion.