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Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#33
This is a genre of post that I've never really understood. Klabnik is great and all, but, ok? Sure? Were people really record-scratching over his totally reasonable decision to take a good-paying job at a big company?

It's obviously not just Klabnik. In fact, when we did Starfighter a few years back, I think Patrick did one of these posts as well. But: like every other post about Starfighter on HN while we were working on it, the whole thing was pretty uncomfortable. It's an experience I'd prefer not to repeat.

There are lots of excellent people taking all sorts of jobs at all sorts of places, and, unless those jobs involve, I don't know, mechanizing payday loans to squeeze poor people or hacking the phones of people the government of Bahrain doesn't like, nobody needs to justify them. Some of these posts seem like they might be good examples of content actually better delivered in a tweet.

It's possible that I just don't think Cloud Flare has earned the spotlight Klabnik is giving here. Who knows. But I felt the same way when Yegge announced his job at Grab --- just, "why am I reading this?" I'm sometimes reminded of the way Anthony Bourdain described the trailing years of Mario Batali's tenure at Food TV (Batali was a "lion" but not in a good way). Like: did you want to write this, or did Cloud Flare reallllllly want you to write this?

Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#34
I really like Cloudflare's strategy with edge compute. It's kind of what you have to do if you want to leapfrog over what AWS has achieved. "Oh, you have all these data centers in convenient locations for datacenters? Great. We have them near the user." That's important because a lot of future things depend on low latency, like gaming in the "cloud" instead of on a $500 console you have to buy every few years.

Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#35
This is a pretty genius move on CloudFlare's part. By getting Steve and investing in Rust before it and WA really takes off they get a seat at the table, and will probably have considerable influence and domain knowledge in both technologies compared to other companies when it becomes mainstream.

Rust is also hedging its bets on WA, and it's looking like Rust might be the language of the future web on the server and client (thanks for all the fish Javascript). CF investing in Rust is mutually beneficial. Rust is still new, agile, and will let people write safe code, which is going to be critical when running modules in the end user's browser.

Hope they let Steve spend a lot of his time continuing to make Rust great, and hopefully Steve will encourage the other Rustacians at CF to make Rust better for the rest of us.

Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#36
post #20

Congratulations Steve :) edit - Also there is a small spelling mistake in this line > A lot of people see the realtionship

Funny how the brain autocorrects when reading quickly.. I had to look at your quote twice to see the issue.

Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#37
post #33

This is a genre of post that I've never really understood. Klabnik is great and all, but, ok? Sure? Were people really record-scratching over his totally reasonable decision to take a good-paying job at a big company? It's obviously not just Klabnik. In fact, when we did Starfighter a few years back, I think Patrick did one of these posts as well. But: like every other post about Starfighter on HN while we were worki…

It's cool man, not everything is for everyone.

> Were people really record-scratching over his totally reasonable decision to take a good-paying job at a big company?

I actually anticipated a few people being confused because of a few reasons. It seems like, so far at least, nobody has actually been confused. It happens. But I've experienced a lot of that previously; so like, moving from "writing documentation" to "product manager" and "everything is MIT/Apache2.0 licensed" to "a closed source platform" can look like big changes from the outside.

And really, I have wanted to write this bit about edge compute for a while, this is just a good excuse to finally publish the piece. I've been talking to CloudFlare for a few months, and it felt slightly odd to write it before I told the world "hey I may have some bias here." Now that I've made my decision and that bias is clear, that helps further discussion.

Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#38

This post has hit number one on the front page, so I assume I am out of the loop; why is this significant?

CF is doing a ton of cutting edge work in the WA work. Rust is a language that is developing first class support for WA. Solomon Hykes, who completely revolutionized serverside with Docker, is saying WA is the next big revolution. This is literally the building ground 0, the powder keg, and it's all pointing to CF getting the jump over all other web companies with WA.

Re: I'm Joining CloudFlare

#39
post #33

This is a genre of post that I've never really understood. Klabnik is great and all, but, ok? Sure? Were people really record-scratching over his totally reasonable decision to take a good-paying job at a big company? It's obviously not just Klabnik. In fact, when we did Starfighter a few years back, I think Patrick did one of these posts as well. But: like every other post about Starfighter on HN while we were worki…

It's cool man, not everything is for everyone. > Were people really record-scratching over his totally reasonable decision to take a good-paying job at a big company? I actually anticipated a few people being confused because of a few reasons. It seems like, so far at least, nobody has actually been confused. It happens. But I've experienced a lot of that previously; so like, moving from "writing documentation" to "p…

Yeah just to be clear, you're simply at the leading edge of a phenomenon that's been puzzling me for awhile, probably starting with that Yegge/Grab piece (after which, from what I can tell, he was never heard from again). Don't fade away!
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