Laws against lies: Asian governments are trying to curb fake news
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#2Given most Asian governments' preference for strict and harsh governance this is very concerning.
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#3Unless there is some precise definition of fake news, this is just censorship in sheep's clothing.
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#4Given most Asian governments' preference for strict and harsh governance this is very concerning.
Think some of the concerns are pretty legitimate. Social Media has been used to coordinate mob violence in multiple Asian countries. How people use social media in different countries is very different.
Re: Laws against lies: Asian governments are trying to curb fake news
#5Given most Asian governments' preference for strict and harsh governance this is very concerning.
Think some of the concerns are pretty legitimate. Social Media has been used to coordinate mob violence in multiple Asian countries. How people use social media in different countries is very different.
Language has also been used to coordinate mob violence. So have arms and legs. Public roads have helped in the coordination of violence and human trafficking, and it's time to take roads seriously.
Violence is illegal, not the potential pathways.
Re: Laws against lies: Asian governments are trying to curb fake news
#6Given most Asian governments' preference for strict and harsh governance this is very concerning.
Think some of the concerns are pretty legitimate. Social Media has been used to coordinate mob violence in multiple Asian countries. How people use social media in different countries is very different.
Has that actually happened in Singapore though? I usually read about those kinds of incidents in rural communities which are recently and rapidly becoming internet connected. Not in densely populated and highly educated city-states which have been highly connected for decades.
Also this makes it sound like Singapore is less worried about mobs and more about cultural values
> K. Shanmugam, the law minister, warned lawmakers of the dangers of unregulated speech, handing them a list of “offensive song lyrics”, which included hits by Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande.
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#7Souds more like they want a monopoly on propaganda.
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#8Who fact checks the fact checkers?
Re: Laws against lies: Asian governments are trying to curb fake news
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Think some of the concerns are pretty legitimate. Social Media has been used to coordinate mob violence in multiple Asian countries. How people use social media in different countries is very different.
Has that actually happened in Singapore though? I usually read about those kinds of incidents in rural communities which are recently and rapidly becoming internet connected. Not in densely populated and highly educated city-states which have been highly connected for decades. Also this makes it sound like Singapore is less worried about mobs and more about cultural values > K. Shanmugam, the law minister, warned law…
Densely populated cities filled with mostly educated people are perfectly capable of riots driven by ethnic tensions and dubious claims, but Singapore's last race riot was in 1969[1]. Singapore had legitimate concerns about racial tensions in the 1970s and some of its more illiberal policies were arguably practical responses to those situations, but that was a long time ago when Singaporean society was very different, and this draft policy's clauses about making it illegal to publish material that "might diminish public confidence in a state body" seems to have other priorities.
[1]There was another riot involving Indian construction workers in 2013, but that was a spontaneous [massive over]reaction to a bus driver running someone over, not something planned or stirred up beforehand. And that's every riot in Singapore since 1969...
Re: Laws against lies: Asian governments are trying to curb fake news
#10One thing has been increasingly clear over the last few years: a lot of people are basically OK giving large governments more power and relinquishing what I think of as basic rights.
Not just overseas, but here in the US a lot of people just don't care about rights and think the government is the solution to everything if you just give them enough power.
Not sure how to keep rights, honestly. The Constitution and the courts help, but only for so long.
The only thing I can think of is that it could work in a poorer country (or at least relatively poorer) because people would self-select to be there for the freedom, and people who don't care bout freedom would follow money somewhere else.