Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg Addresses the Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 Report

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 8:16 AM UTC

treis wrote: post #134

msbarnett wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At 05:40:35, the First-Officer called out “stab trim cut-out” two times. Captain agreed and First- Officer confirmed stab trim cut-out. > At 05:41:46, the Captain asked the First-Officer if the trim is functional. The First-Officer has replied that the trim was not working and asked if he could try it manually. The Captain told him to try. At 05:41:54, the First-Officer replied that it is not working. I guess the F…

Pilots are often wrong about what their aircraft is doing. In fact, that's a big reason why they crash. So yes, the First Officer said that but that is not conclusive proof that they couldn't manually trim. He may have misinterpreted the question and tried the electric trim again. Or maybe he tried turning the wheel and didn't do it right. Or maybe he needed to try again. Or maybe he needed the pilots help. Or maybe…

Post by netsharc » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 8:25 AM UTC

raincom wrote: post #33

bruceb wrote: post #11

Any PR pro worth their rate would have him and senior management very publicly flying only on 737 Max flights when they comeback online. Assurances alone are going to mean a very rocky road back for this plane.

I think they should fly on 737 Max flights piloted by Ethiopian or Lion Air Pilots. Not some Boeing/South West pilots.

Post by SmellyGeekBoy » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 8:29 AM UTC

m0zg wrote: post #212

guatepejor wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These airplanes were not designed for third world lower IQ pilots. Boeing still has the thinking of the 80s and 90s when the pilot demographics (even in the third world) was quite different. The tasks of dumming down the controls and much more training is the new reality that Boeing must implement.

> third world lower IQ pilots Ewww. Not here, please.

Post by SmellyGeekBoy » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 8:34 AM UTC

pmyteh wrote: post #232

m_mueller wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume that AoA sensor disagree would have been warned about still on the ground. Even if both fail, a new take off checklist will probably include comparing AoA information with analog instruments. If one sensor failure is 10E-5, two simultaneous should be 10E-10, multiplied with assumption of competence (say 99/100 will now know how to deal with it), which gives 10E-11 - 10E-12. I.e. I wouldn't worry about MCAS a…

From the FDR data in the report, it seems that the AoA sensor disagreements on this flight didn't start until after takeoff. I don't know if this is the normal failure mode.

Post by SmellyGeekBoy » Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 8:37 AM UTC

tmd83 wrote: post #45

"We regret the impact the grounding has had on our airline customers and their passengers." - I really hated this. As if they did the grounding for safety reason and regrets the cost. As if the passengers and clamoring for flying in 737-MAX. There's obviously a lot of concern and outrage. But I wonder if Boeing's share price would have been higher than last year if the two crashes were in first world countries specia…