Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg Addresses the Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 Report

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Post by kaboro » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 10:09 PM UTC

Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg Addresses the Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 Report
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Post by xiphias2 » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 10:55 PM UTC

,,We remain confident in the fundamental safety of the 737 MAX.''

Am I irrational for not wanting to be on the first 1-2 years of flights on 737 MAX after it gets its software update?

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Post by DevX101 » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 10:57 PM UTC

> We remain confident in the fundamental safety of the 737 MAX

He just finished several paragraphs about how the plane and it's software was not safe ("erroneous activation of the MCAS function"), and then arrives at this conclusion?

If my car erroneously responds to the pressure on the gas pedal it's not safe.

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Post by zaroth » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 10:59 PM UTC

This is Boeing’s first volley as MCAS is now definitely and undeniably fatally flawed.

I am fairly confident that by the time we are done with this, a system called MCAS never flies again. Even if it means the entire MAX is shelved.

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Post by 781 » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 11:01 PM UTC

xiphias2 wrote: post #2

,,We remain confident in the fundamental safety of the 737 MAX.'' Am I irrational for not wanting to be on the first 1-2 years of flights on 737 MAX after it gets its software update?

Well, then I'm irrational too, because I won't set foot in a 737 MAX after this shitfest. The FAA also lost a lot of trust, for rubber-stamping this.

The first accident was maybe understandable. We all know that shit happens. But Boeing has zero excuses for not immediately grounding the whole fleet after, and for putting out that useless recovery procedure which didn't work in this case. They let a deadly plane fly for 5 months after they were aware of it, and after the second crash they were phoning Trump to keep it in the air.

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Post by blatherard » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 11:01 PM UTC

"We're taking a comprehensive, disciplined approach, and taking the time, to get the software update right."

So what approach did they use the first time around?

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Post by peteradio » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 11:02 PM UTC

zaroth wrote: post #4

This is Boeing’s first volley as MCAS is now definitely and undeniably fatally flawed. I am fairly confident that by the time we are done with this, a system called MCAS never flies again. Even if it means the entire MAX is shelved.

That would be an astronomical loss, I just don't see that happening.

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Post by vkou » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 11:02 PM UTC

xiphias2 wrote: post #2

,,We remain confident in the fundamental safety of the 737 MAX.'' Am I irrational for not wanting to be on the first 1-2 years of flights on 737 MAX after it gets its software update?

No, from a cursory reading of the report, it's not entirely clear that software updates are going to fix the problem.

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Post by toomuchtodo » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 11:02 PM UTC

DevX101 wrote: post #3

> We remain confident in the fundamental safety of the 737 MAX He just finished several paragraphs about how the plane and it's software was not safe ("erroneous activation of the MCAS function"), and then arrives at this conclusion? If my car erroneously responds to the pressure on the gas pedal it's not safe.

If he says anything other than that, odds of the 737 MAX being scrapped entirely (from customer and air passenger pressure) goes up. Saving face to save the share price.

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Post by xiphias2 » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 11:03 PM UTC

zaroth wrote: post #4

This is Boeing’s first volley as MCAS is now definitely and undeniably fatally flawed. I am fairly confident that by the time we are done with this, a system called MCAS never flies again. Even if it means the entire MAX is shelved.

The problem for me is not with the error that happened but by the response of the CEO for the accident. People who fly on new planes can't be bullsh*tted that easily, as they read news all the time. The Boeing CEO has no idea how much he is in the center of attention for his clients right now.