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Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates

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Re: Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates

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If this is true, it represents the single biggest olive branch Microsoft can send to Windows 7 diehards like myself short of just continuing to develop Windows 7 until I die.

I must grudgingly admit I'm still very suspicious of W10 but with this, if it turns out to be true, will cause me to take another hard look at my decision to jump to Lubuntu instead of W10 shenanigans.

Edit: Wait a sec, this is just the update pause not update refusal being extended to Windows 10 Home users...after a while they do force you to update anyways. Nevermind then.

Re: Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates

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It was one of the largest motivating factors when switching of windows to linux/mac.

That lack of control where the computer randomly decides to restart when gaming during odd hours.

Set network on metered mode, but computer decides to reboot while you are still inputing with mouse, and keyboard is so passive aggressive.

All for some random update that is just so important.

Re: Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates

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post #2

If this is true, it represents the single biggest olive branch Microsoft can send to Windows 7 diehards like myself short of just continuing to develop Windows 7 until I die. I must grudgingly admit I'm still very suspicious of W10 but with this, if it turns out to be true, will cause me to take another hard look at my decision to jump to Lubuntu instead of W10 shenanigans. Edit: Wait a sec, this is just the update p…

I work in factory automation, half of the machines there are still on WinXP. The idea to switch a system that auto-updates, sending a whole production facility into a full stop is laughable. That legacy rope your most loyal customers where depending on microsoft, its now strangling your very movement.

In the long run, i can some compatability layer beeing developed, so legacy customers can cut out microsoft. Its just not a reliable partner anymore.

Re: Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates

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It was one of the largest motivating factors when switching of windows to linux/mac. That lack of control where the computer randomly decides to restart when gaming during odd hours. Set network on metered mode, but computer decides to reboot while you are still inputing with mouse, and keyboard is so passive aggressive. All for some random update that is just so important.

The worst part is even if you aren't there - it doesn't do all the work while you are away. It intentionally saves some work for when you log in so that you are forced to watch all the great work its doing instead of what you actually wanted. Its extra fun on those big updates where this part can take over a half hour.

Re: Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates

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post #2

If this is true, it represents the single biggest olive branch Microsoft can send to Windows 7 diehards like myself short of just continuing to develop Windows 7 until I die. I must grudgingly admit I'm still very suspicious of W10 but with this, if it turns out to be true, will cause me to take another hard look at my decision to jump to Lubuntu instead of W10 shenanigans. Edit: Wait a sec, this is just the update p…

I work in factory automation, half of the machines there are still on WinXP. The idea to switch a system that auto-updates, sending a whole production facility into a full stop is laughable. That legacy rope your most loyal customers where depending on microsoft, its now strangling your very movement. In the long run, i can some compatability layer beeing developed, so legacy customers can cut out microsoft. Its just…

> In the long run, i can some compatability layer beeing developed, so legacy customers can cut out microsoft.

Like Wine or Crossover (~= Wine with support)?

Re: Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates

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post #2

If this is true, it represents the single biggest olive branch Microsoft can send to Windows 7 diehards like myself short of just continuing to develop Windows 7 until I die. I must grudgingly admit I'm still very suspicious of W10 but with this, if it turns out to be true, will cause me to take another hard look at my decision to jump to Lubuntu instead of W10 shenanigans. Edit: Wait a sec, this is just the update p…

I work in factory automation, half of the machines there are still on WinXP. The idea to switch a system that auto-updates, sending a whole production facility into a full stop is laughable. That legacy rope your most loyal customers where depending on microsoft, its now strangling your very movement. In the long run, i can some compatability layer beeing developed, so legacy customers can cut out microsoft. Its just…

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Re: Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates

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post #2

If this is true, it represents the single biggest olive branch Microsoft can send to Windows 7 diehards like myself short of just continuing to develop Windows 7 until I die. I must grudgingly admit I'm still very suspicious of W10 but with this, if it turns out to be true, will cause me to take another hard look at my decision to jump to Lubuntu instead of W10 shenanigans. Edit: Wait a sec, this is just the update p…

I work in factory automation, half of the machines there are still on WinXP. The idea to switch a system that auto-updates, sending a whole production facility into a full stop is laughable. That legacy rope your most loyal customers where depending on microsoft, its now strangling your very movement. In the long run, i can some compatability layer beeing developed, so legacy customers can cut out microsoft. Its just…

Generally the right approach to this in the enterprise is to use WSUS, and then using GPO to prevent Windows from trying to get updates from the Internet, limiting it only to the updates that are approved in WSUS.

Separately I'd have to ask why if your production facility is dependent on these machines that they would be Internet-connected in the first place.

Re: Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates

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post #2

If this is true, it represents the single biggest olive branch Microsoft can send to Windows 7 diehards like myself short of just continuing to develop Windows 7 until I die. I must grudgingly admit I'm still very suspicious of W10 but with this, if it turns out to be true, will cause me to take another hard look at my decision to jump to Lubuntu instead of W10 shenanigans. Edit: Wait a sec, this is just the update p…

I work in factory automation, half of the machines there are still on WinXP. The idea to switch a system that auto-updates, sending a whole production facility into a full stop is laughable. That legacy rope your most loyal customers where depending on microsoft, its now strangling your very movement. In the long run, i can some compatability layer beeing developed, so legacy customers can cut out microsoft. Its just…

On factory automation machines you should be using LTSC, not Windows 10 Home.

Re: Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates

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post #2

If this is true, it represents the single biggest olive branch Microsoft can send to Windows 7 diehards like myself short of just continuing to develop Windows 7 until I die. I must grudgingly admit I'm still very suspicious of W10 but with this, if it turns out to be true, will cause me to take another hard look at my decision to jump to Lubuntu instead of W10 shenanigans. Edit: Wait a sec, this is just the update p…

I work in factory automation, half of the machines there are still on WinXP. The idea to switch a system that auto-updates, sending a whole production facility into a full stop is laughable. That legacy rope your most loyal customers where depending on microsoft, its now strangling your very movement. In the long run, i can some compatability layer beeing developed, so legacy customers can cut out microsoft. Its just…

For that kind of environment Microsoft provides embedded versions of Windows.
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