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Re: Editing in an age of outrage

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Post by elhudy » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 3:19 PM UTC

stcredzero wrote: post #41

elhudy wrote: post #12

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>What if that didn't work? Would justice have been served, or would an injustice have occurred? I'm not trying to invalidate the OP's point, just showing how the social shaming from those who don't matter (TWDM™) can lead to a somewhat positive outcome. It's largely a matter of your sensitivity to the social pressure which in the author's case was very high (he lost his job).

So if it doesn't work, a great injustice could be done.

Of course, but nobody is arguing otherwise

Re: Editing in an age of outrage

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Post by bduerst » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 5:47 PM UTC

Aloha wrote: post #49

anoncake wrote: post #48

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We cant ban intolerant thoughts whether we want to or not since we cannot read peoples minds. Besides people cant just change their believes at will. The question is what we do about intolerant speech.

Basically all intolerant speech should be allowed, so long as you're not trying to call people to arms to act on that speech - the speech itself probably doesn't matter much. I'd rather be able to spot the hateful people, than not know who they are and let them act on their hate in silence.

>Basically all intolerant speech should be allowed, so long as you're not trying to call people to arms to act on that speech

So all intolerant speech should be allowed, except for this speech that shouldn't be tolerated?

Re: Editing in an age of outrage

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Post by Aloha » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 6:38 PM UTC

bduerst wrote: post #52

Aloha wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically all intolerant speech should be allowed, so long as you're not trying to call people to arms to act on that speech - the speech itself probably doesn't matter much. I'd rather be able to spot the hateful people, than not know who they are and let them act on their hate in silence.

>Basically all intolerant speech should be allowed, so long as you're not trying to call people to arms to act on that speech So all intolerant speech should be allowed, except for this speech that shouldn't be tolerated?

Generally, yes, provided you're not calling people to action, presenting an imminent and present threat, it certainly should be allowed.

I have as much trouble with the government banning speech as I do with people getting doxed for saying something unpopular.