Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

MIT cuts ties with Chinese tech firms Huawei, ZTE

reuters.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 216 posts

Re: MIT cuts ties with Chinese tech firms Huawei, ZTE

#21

Post by floren »

unethical_ban wrote: post #15
thaumasiotes wrote: post #12

It could be argued that if the news needs to introduce you as "an elite US school", you aren't really an elite school. That's an odd conclusion to draw about MIT though. Who's the target audience here? MIT really is internationally known.

Elite != Culturally recognized Every American knows Harvard, many wouldn't know Cal Tech or MIT.

I'm going to call bullshit on Americans not knowing MIT. It's TV/movie shorthand for someone being a tech genius, same way Harvard is shorthand for being a top lawyer/politician/writer. "Top of his class at MIT"

Re: MIT cuts ties with Chinese tech firms Huawei, ZTE

#22

Post by Armisael16 »

EpicEng wrote: post #20
thaumasiotes wrote: post #12

It could be argued that if the news needs to introduce you as "an elite US school", you aren't really an elite school. That's an odd conclusion to draw about MIT though. Who's the target audience here? MIT really is internationally known.

So... you don't think MIT is in the top tier?

It's bizarre that they felt the need to introduce MIT.

Re: MIT cuts ties with Chinese tech firms Huawei, ZTE

#23

Post by philipov »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #17
thaumasiotes wrote: post #12

It could be argued that if the news needs to introduce you as "an elite US school", you aren't really an elite school. That's an odd conclusion to draw about MIT though. Who's the target audience here? MIT really is internationally known.

I see your point, but IMO "elite" refers to its level of excellence, not how well known it is. For example, my understanding is that IIT was elite well before many of U.S-born software developers had heard of it.

Nah, 'elite' refers to the level of prestige. Prestige != Excellence.

Re: MIT cuts ties with Chinese tech firms Huawei, ZTE

#25

Post by thaumasiotes »

EpicEng wrote: post #20
thaumasiotes wrote: post #12

It could be argued that if the news needs to introduce you as "an elite US school", you aren't really an elite school. That's an odd conclusion to draw about MIT though. Who's the target audience here? MIT really is internationally known.

So... you don't think MIT is in the top tier?

Surely that depends on how many schools you think the top tier should include. I don't think it's #1.

But as Armisael16 says, I think it's strange that Reuters had to qualify it as an "elite US school", implying that it isn't one. What would you think of a news article beginning "The Pope, a prominent religious leader, ..."?

Re: MIT cuts ties with Chinese tech firms Huawei, ZTE

#26

Post by gruez »

CodeSheikh wrote: post #16

I wonder if US carriers can start discouraging consumers from using Huawei, ZTE cellphones. They know the IMEI numbers.

How would this work? A monthly ZTE surcharge? The consumer already bought the phone. Retroactively punishing them when they already gave money to ZTE isn't the right solution. Just ban new phones from joining the networks.

Re: MIT cuts ties with Chinese tech firms Huawei, ZTE

#27

Post by lexs »

azinman2 wrote: post #19
Drakim wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm actually not sure I agree. I have the nagging feeling that China spying on me is most likely to have zero consequences for my daily life, while the US spying on me can get me on a no-fly list or something.

Well when they copy and outcompete all your industries, then I think you’d notice some consequences.

The US has been caught doing industrial espionage as well, more of a pest or cholera situation here.

Re: MIT cuts ties with Chinese tech firms Huawei, ZTE

#28

Post by espeed »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #12

It could be argued that if the news needs to introduce you as "an elite US school", you aren't really an elite school. That's an odd conclusion to draw about MIT though. Who's the target audience here? MIT really is internationally known.

Everyone in the West knows MIT. That's a clue the Reuters headline target audience is in the East.

Re: MIT cuts ties with Chinese tech firms Huawei, ZTE

#29

Post by thaumasiotes »

espeed wrote: post #28
thaumasiotes wrote: post #12

It could be argued that if the news needs to introduce you as "an elite US school", you aren't really an elite school. That's an odd conclusion to draw about MIT though. Who's the target audience here? MIT really is internationally known.

Everyone in the West knows MIT. That's a clue the Reuters headline target audience is in the East.

They know MIT in China too. They don't read Reuters much though.

Re: MIT cuts ties with Chinese tech firms Huawei, ZTE

#30

Post by SpicyLemonZest »

tasuki wrote: post #24
ianai wrote: post #3

Is there any evidence that these two companies aren’t Chinese government operatives?

Is there evidence they are? I don't trust Huawei all that much, rather I think whatever alternatives might also be whoever's operatives.

As a matter of government policy, all Chinese companies are government operatives. The Communist Party claims "overall leadership over all areas of endeavour in every part of the country".
Post reply on HN