Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Happier and More Secure
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#2Basic income means that people who are willing to work will pay probably higher taxes. I believe that will be easier for some people who do not earn much to just stay home with basic income. Then less people will be economically active (who will do low wage jobs ?) and taxes will need to go higher etc... It's economical spiral of death for whole nation.
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#3Why not just look at people who don't work but receive income - young people, retirees, wealthy people etc. to see what behavior under UBI looks like?
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#4At what point gets the society in a unmaintainable state? What percentage of the people can live on UBI?
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#5As a member of the Nordic societies I find it important to point out some important information. In these countries we already have rather sizable unemployment benefits.
If you read the (better) article by NYT[0] on the same subject, you will be given an example showing her income under basic income only increased with 50$ out of 635$.
[0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/world/europe/finland-basi...
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#6Basic income means that people who are willing to work will pay probably higher taxes. I believe that will be easier for some people who do not earn much to just stay home with basic income. Then less people will be economically active (who will do low wage jobs ?) and taxes will need to go higher etc... It's economical spiral of death for whole nation.
The goal is to provide a sustainable and desirable quality of life for all, and economic activity is one or part of a way to achieve it. I don’t think people will just stop wanting to go out to restaurants, or skiing, or whatever other activities they want to do. And if they want to do them, they will have to work. And especially to attract a quality mate.
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#7Why can't UBI be attempted on a local scale first?
We have state and local governments for a reason. Something as risky and expensive as UBI, if it is going to be implemented, should be implemented gradually with proper testing, feedback, and adaptation.
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#8What person wouldn't be happier and more secure with more money?
Re: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Happier and More Secure
#9Basic income means that people who are willing to work will pay probably higher taxes. I believe that will be easier for some people who do not earn much to just stay home with basic income. Then less people will be economically active (who will do low wage jobs ?) and taxes will need to go higher etc... It's economical spiral of death for whole nation.
The goal is to provide a sustainable and desirable quality of life for all, and economic activity is one or part of a way to achieve it. I don’t think people will just stop wanting to go out to restaurants, or skiing, or whatever other activities they want to do. And if they want to do them, they will have to work. And especially to attract a quality mate.
Yeah, but they will have to work more than now, beacuse they will be paying higher taxes.
Re: Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Happier and More Secure
#10Basic income means that people who are willing to work will pay probably higher taxes. I believe that will be easier for some people who do not earn much to just stay home with basic income. Then less people will be economically active (who will do low wage jobs ?) and taxes will need to go higher etc... It's economical spiral of death for whole nation.
The goal is to provide a sustainable and desirable quality of life for all, and economic activity is one or part of a way to achieve it. I don’t think people will just stop wanting to go out to restaurants, or skiing, or whatever other activities they want to do. And if they want to do them, they will have to work. And especially to attract a quality mate.
Of course, if there is somehow 'enough money' in the system let's give it to the people to guarantee 'sustainable and desirable quality of life'. Question is where to take such large amounts of money for everyone. I know one country where citizens get free money - Quatar, that's because of oil and because they use cheap labor from immigrants from various African and Asian countries.
Whole idea of basic income is like from communist manifesto. You need to exploit someone or some other nation in order to get money for your citizen who wants to have 'sustainable quality of life for free'. A) exploit rich people B) exploit immigrants and use them for cheap labor
both ways are historically verified