The Challenge of Going Off Psychiatric Drugs • Hacker News Board

Re: The Challenge of Going Off Psychiatric Drugs

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Post by KerryJones » Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 10:24 PM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #96

KerryJones wrote: post #60

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And they are? Your statement is completely anecdotal and carries no weight without the references.

> Your statement is completely anecdotal and carries no weight without the references. I don't see you asking other people to reference the stuff they're coming out with.

Irrelevant?

I'm not trying to be the "reference" police, I glanced at the first page or so of comments and this is what stood out to me as being against the multitudes of information/research that I've read.

It seems poor form to reject someone else's point by saying "studies say otherwise!" and not provide the studies.

Re: The Challenge of Going Off Psychiatric Drugs

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Post by fraudsyndrome » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 3:27 AM UTC

azernik wrote: post #169

fraudsyndrome wrote: post #149

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Thanks for the reply How can I, advocate on my friend's behalf against a Psychiatrist who has been working with him for years when I have no expertise in the field? Do I trust that his Psychiatrist has already thought the same thing? Maybe I can leak some info to him (like those articles) so he can think for himself and talk to his Psychiatrist about it. Technically he was doing better pre-ECT, but stress got to him…

My dad has (probably?) paranoid schizophrenia, and life stress was definitely a trigger for that. I am skeptical of tcj_phx's advocacy of resistance to lithium. It's a very effective drug with horrific side effects, and it seems to have worked pre-ECT. It sounds like the psych involved is aware of the safe limits for lithium, as hitting the maximum safe dosage for one drug is usually what (in my experience) causes ps…

Yeah, I'll take it with a grain of salt but I'll still do more reading on it and maybe bring it up with him to see if his Psychiatrist has ever mentioned anything similar - just to the get thoughts going.

They gave me the heavy anti-psychosis meds too (I can't remember the name) and it did nothing for him either.. But yes, he's taking so much medication I can't imagine trying to map out all the potential side-effects of any combination.

Re: The Challenge of Going Off Psychiatric Drugs

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Post by JamesBarney » Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 6:39 AM UTC

KerryJones wrote: post #180

JamesBarney wrote: post #81

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Here is one trial there are 100's of others on the same website. https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/results/NCT01441440 P.S. My statement wasn't an anecdote.(I think you're using that word incorrectly)

Anecdotal: "(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research" My comment was "without references...", ie. facts or research, it would make it anecdotal. As others commented, "lack of depressive symptoms" is very different from happiness. That's what "numbness" is.

There are many ways to measure happiness. But I can't imagine any that aren't affected by a remission of depression.

Re: The Challenge of Going Off Psychiatric Drugs

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Post by dsego » Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 6:37 PM UTC

wetpaws wrote: post #164

captainredbeard wrote: post #82

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For the sleep, try wearing blue light blocking glasses all day until you are able to sleep reliably. It sounds ridiculous but I read a study in the Journal of Bipolar Disorder a few years back (can't find a link right now) about this. I've given a pair to a friend suffering from a multi-day manic phase (with zero sleep) and it stopped it dead in the tracks, within six hours in this case. It makes you look a bit dorky…

Why just not take melatonin which is cheap af?

And magnesium, right?