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Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Orgzly is pretty good on android

Orgzly is a good interface, but the syncability is lacking.

really? Been working fine for me apart from the occasional sync conflict. I just make sure to sync before I make any changes on the phone, and then sync again.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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It cannot save or open local notebooks. That's beyond "not quite as feature complete." It's a thin client for a web app.

That's a gross exaggeration. Every OneNote client (except for the browser one) downloads everything from OneDrive to the local machine and does all the changes to that local copy, which then gets synced to OneDrive. You could take weeks' worth of notes and peruse mountains of reference without any Internet access and the app wouldn't bat an eye. It's true the app's positioned as an online service rather than a file r…

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Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Still using Evernote. Haven’t had the sync problems some describe. Still storing everything I put in it. Still isn’t trying to cram my rich tech notes into Markdown, still isn’t a web view pretending to be a native app. I’m not using it for the original grandiose attempts to Remember Everything. It’s just my notebooks. It’s great to have all my notes for a project in one shareable place. And I’m still paying for it,…

How are you OK storing your notes in a cloud system where your notes are viewable by third parties? How do you get past Evernote not supporting end to end encryption? This has been the dealbreaker for me since the beginning.

I don’t encrypt my email either.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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For sure. I had an Evernote subscription, but I used OneNote at work - and it's just better. Letting you place snippets and notes on the vertical AND horizontal plane makes sense for quick note taking. Anyway, I switched last year and the fact that OneNote had a convenient note importer for Evernote was icing on the cake. Evernote never seemed to evolve either. It was the same product 5 years ago, as it was last year…

The OneNote canvas based model doesn't really work for note taking for me. Switching between mobile and desktop devices means the content doesn't fit on either because it the form factors are so different. I think they special case the mobile product to act like a traditional text editor when there is a single text field. But it is a kludge on top of a broken model.

That's fair. I personally never found value in note taking on mobile. I present at conferences, and deal with partners and customers, and in those cases pen with a pocket-size notebook beats fiddling around with a phone. To compare, to take a note on a phone while talking to a partner, I have to 1) take my phone out, 2) unlock it, 3) launch the app and wait for it to load 4) wait until the software keyboard shows up, 5) start taking notes. At any point the phone could start acting up. Maybe it'll be extra slow this time. Maybe the app will crash. Maybe the fingerprint won't take on the first try. The opportunity for delays are always there.

With a notebook, it's so much faster. You take it out, and you start writing. And at the end of the day, I manually add my notes to OneNote.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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I like and use OneNote, but "all platforms" isn't quite correct - there is no native Linux client, so I have to use the browser version, which isn't nearly as good as native versions.

While MS doesn't do great on Linux support, given their web push, I can usually find a decent Electron alternative for desktop linux. Of course it's more overhead than native, but a lot of MS's own implementations for tools are now electron based. https://github.com/patrikx3/onenote

Thanks for that link, I'll definitely be trying that out.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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In my experience, onenote's synchronization still has serious performance issues if you have a huge number of notes. Try moving or deleting a large number of notes and watch it just completely lock up for 20 minutes. Also, initial sync on a new machine is ridiculously slow. As in I need to leave it for hours before it totally syncs everything.

2016 or the Win10 app? 2016 sync is a lot slower than modern sync (Win10, macOS, mobile)

I've used both, most recently the win10 app.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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I think I may have the same issue. There's a bit too much going on for me. Markdown has definitely become my format of choice. It's like the JSON of plain-text files: Imperfect, but simple and everywhere. I'd like to simplify down to markdown files in folders as you have, but I can't seem to find a native editor that I actually like on Ubuntu. They all feel incomplete, or they insist upon "preview" mode, which I can'…

I use typora. Im not exactly sure whether it works on linux. also you could use a vscode extension for live previewing (vscode works on linux right?)

I'm pretty late on this response, so I'm not sure you'll ever see it, but after your recommendation I downloaded Typora. It's excellent. I'd tried it a couple times in the past and was not impressed, but I am now. It's fast, it works predictably well, and the documentation is really good.

I wish they had a means of adding plug-ins (or if it were open-source, so I could figure out how to add my own).

Thanks for the recommendation!

As for vscode, I may try it at some point as vscode is pretty impressive, although I tend to live in the Jetbrains world, and happily so. That said, I haven't really been a fan of any Markdown plugin on Jetbrains apps.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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I will continue to use Evernote however it has two major flaws:

1- No way to resolve the conflicting changes. It puts the conflicting document in the conflicting changes folder and you're on your own to find out what changes are conflicting. They don't provide a side by side comparison. Any developer knows what I am talking about. A way to resolve merge conflict resolution.

- It doesn't do partial text searches. Say you have a phone number like 9067372823 and you only remember the first 3 digits. You search for 906 and you get zero results! It's a lame search Evernote uses. I heard excuses from other users about performance issues. Screw that excuse. Users don't have tens or million of text they are searching for. Computers are very fast in searches.

We've been complaining about these issues for YEARS and the heavy lazy ass Evernote company hasn't done anything to add these important features. Everytime I get an update hoping they have a fix and they don't.

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