A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilized Buildings • Hacker News Board

Re: A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilized Buildings

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Post by sithadmin » Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 2:29 PM UTC

ma2rten wrote: post #106

sithadmin wrote: post #52

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If nothing else: there's a market for fighting back against this. KeyMe kiosks (usually found at US supermarkets, pharmacies, etc.) have had RFID fob/card cloning capabilities for a while now. You scan the fob/card at the kiosk, then they clone it to a sticker and send it to you via mail.

Does this also work for company badges?

In theory, it could. Depends on whether the particular RFID standard used is supported by KeyMe or not. At a glance, they didn't seem to have much info available on what is/isn't supported.

Re: A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilized Buildings

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Post by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC » Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 7:55 AM UTC

Not_a_pizza wrote: post #190

alister wrote: post #10

One result of doors being controlled by facial recognition -- or any other kind of biometric system -- is that you have to get permission from someone whenever you have a regular visitor. You can no longer give your girlfriend, boyfriend, dog sitter, relatives, or whoever you wish a key or access card to your home. You have to enroll that person in the facial database. And whoever is doing the enrolling can ask for l…

Rent-stabilized implies individuals that are less successful. This might be because of drugs, or various other distractions. Maybe it's their personal choice. Either way, any time you have rent stabilized, you have increased crime, increased disruption and increased disfunctionality. I think with greater restriction you are actually doing them a favor. I've lived in dozens of non-rent controlled apartments, and it's…

> I think with greater restriction you are actually doing them a favor.

Congrats, you are now a certified authoritarian.

Re: A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilized Buildings

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Post by mbrumlow » Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 3:32 PM UTC

chrisco255 wrote: post #185

javagram wrote: post #175

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Not sure if legally it would be considered to violate privacy. My guess would be the mentioned privacy is relating to the dwelling itself, that is, the landlord can’t come hang out in your living room or hide cameras in your apartment. Plenty of apartments have 24/7 concierge at the front door and monitored entrances. That isn’t considered violating privacy even though the concierge can see you come in and out. Would…

I think once you start documenting and recording exactly who is coming and going and exactly what apartment they're going to you are violating privacy. No doubt cases like this will be tried as people test the bounds of that legal definition.

I don't think so. I know many gates cominities that have a guard that verifies identity for those comming and going from the subdivision. And logs are kept.

If you can hire a human to do it and it is fine then I don't think any automated systems would be violating privacy.

Also there is no privacy in public places and you can probably conclude that you are in a public place before you enter. Eg. Their is no privacy at the checkpoint.

Re: A Landlord Wants Facial Recognition in Its Rent-Stabilized Buildings

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Post by handoflixue » Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 9:07 PM UTC

FakeComments wrote: post #198

handoflixue wrote: post #157

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> I think it’s a poor choice for a door lock, but I’m not sure I a priori think it’s unacceptable for a product to not work for some (~10%) portion of the population — especially when it reflects an engineering reality If my employer specifies a uniform, it's their obligation to provide one to 100% of their employees, not the 90% covered by the cheap "one size fits all" company they prefer to use. If my landlord spec…

> If my employer specifies a uniform, it's their obligation to provide one to 100% of their employees, not the 90% covered by the cheap "one size fits all" company they prefer to use. Only if such clothes are reasonably commercially available — otherwise, they have a bonda fine business reason to discriminate in hiring, and may do so. I think you’d find you also had a really hard time for suing if they just didn’t hi…

Can you provide a citation for tall people being statistically less successful? All the research I've seen suggests height correlates positively with success.