Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airport by border cops

Post by mcv » Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 2:42 PM UTC

manishsharan wrote: post #5

mcv wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep data off your devices during travel, and download it once you're safe. If corporate, require external activation by someone from the company before the contents of your device are restored. That way you cannot be forced to divulge any company trade secrets, because you simply don't have access to them while you're crossing the border.

Some companies issue "China" Laptops to their executives that they must discard after visiting China. Now I believe we all need throw away laptops and cell phones and Facebook accounts for any sort of international travel.

Post by droithomme » Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 2:44 PM UTC

CaptainZapp wrote: post #13

manishsharan wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some companies issue "China" Laptops to their executives that they must discard after visiting China. Now I believe we all need throw away laptops and cell phones and Facebook accounts for any sort of international travel.

I'm actually wondering what happens if I'm ever asked about Facebook credentials when travelling to the US. Fact is: I don't do Facebook, nor any other Facebook product, so I'm really not able to hand over any such credentials.

Post by gruez » Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 2:46 PM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #14

Quick reminder: US citizens have an absolute right to reenter the country. Customs can temporarily detain you, but they cannot refuse entry. Any threat, whether implied or stated, that they will hold you until you unlock your device is not real. They can hold your stuff indefinitely, so be prepared to lose it if you go this route, but never unlock your device based on the idea that it’s the only way to go free. Non-c…

Post by cr1895 » Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 2:49 PM UTC

orev wrote: post #6

chuckgreenman wrote: post #2

I'm hoping that manufactures will start building a plausible deniability user profile you can log into while leaving your actual profile encrypted, appearing to be slack space. This kind of thuggery seems to be getting more common.

That will do more harm than good. In order to build such a device the feature would need to be advertised, which TSA can see just like everyone else. Then when they see such a device, it becomes incumbent on you to prove you’re not using the feature, even when you’re not using it. So you can never prove you’re not using it and therefor could be detained. You might think you have more rights if you’re in the US, but t…

Post by jniedrauer » Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 2:50 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #25

mikeash wrote: post #14

Quick reminder: US citizens have an absolute right to reenter the country. Customs can temporarily detain you, but they cannot refuse entry. Any threat, whether implied or stated, that they will hold you until you unlock your device is not real. They can hold your stuff indefinitely, so be prepared to lose it if you go this route, but never unlock your device based on the idea that it’s the only way to go free. Non-c…

>Customs can temporarily detain you, but they cannot refuse entry What's the definition of "temporarily" in this case?