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A16Z is re-registering as a financial advisor, renouncing its status as a VC

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Re: A16Z is re-registering as a financial advisor, renouncing its status as a VC

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a16z ("our" partner was Chris Dixon) led our seed round at Wit.ai. Working with them on a day-to-day basis was an incredible experience. They never asked for anything, but were always ready to jump in instantly when we needed anything from sales intros to offices in Palo Alto. When we got an offer from Facebook we founders wanted to accept it. They initially disagreed with us, but once we confirmed our decision they…

It's interesting this is the top voted comment when it isn't really substantive to the article's subject matter.

Re: A16Z is re-registering as a financial advisor, renouncing its status as a VC

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post #49

a16z ("our" partner was Chris Dixon) led our seed round at Wit.ai. Working with them on a day-to-day basis was an incredible experience. They never asked for anything, but were always ready to jump in instantly when we needed anything from sales intros to offices in Palo Alto. When we got an offer from Facebook we founders wanted to accept it. They initially disagreed with us, but once we confirmed our decision they…

a16z - also Chris Dixon - led our round at Keybase. We only have great things to say about both the firm and Chris. Chris sits on our board and has been a class act the whole time.

Also: during our fundraising, we faced a number of the "Monday pitch meetings" -- this is where you've gone through the early crap talking with VC's and are invited in to pitch to the partners. It's typically the last step before an offer. a16z's partner meeting was, by far, the most tech-savvy and aware group. It seems obvious that VC's would understand the technology they're investing in, but honestly, that's often not the case. We faced a lot of brand-name VC firms that couldn't understand what we were working on. We'd get a sense of that and quickly adjust our pitch to focus on what they could understand.

For those asking "Why give them so much credit when they're just doing their job?" -- there are special occasions when a startup's interests and its investors' interests are not aligned. The first big opportunity for a VC to mess with you is the period between a letter of intent and closing the round, when all the smaller details come up and are negotiated. a16z was excellent in the process and we closed quickly without issue.

A later possibility of disagreement is what ar7hur describes here, and here's why it happens: VC's have zero risk aversion and aim to maximize expected value in dollars, which is what you'd want as an investor in the VC. But especially if you're a first-time founder, your dollar-to-utility curve is anything bit linear. Most humans wouldn't trade $5 million for a 1-in-10 chance at $100 million. This discrepancy is the source of a lot of possible problems. How VC's behave during both subsequent rounds and possible exits is perhaps the most important measure of them from a founder's perspective.

tl;dr very happy with a16z and Chris Dixon.

Re: A16Z is re-registering as a financial advisor, renouncing its status as a VC

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I've had my morning coffee and it's dawning on me what this means (dawning slowly because it is quite a change). Yes, A16Z gets to extend its reach, as if investing in seed and growth stage tech companies wasn't risky+lucrative enough.

Maybe I'm conservative, but I'd rather they stuck to their knitting (which they're pretty damned good at). There are downsides to this 'diversification' first and foremost, losing focus, but also risk. Basically, I can't help but think of SV's overall trend towards Too Big To Fail.

I'm not a fan of crypto at all. Re-structuring A16Z so that they can bet on that seems worse than silly. Real estate? Perhaps they can bet on Chinese ghost cities as well.

Re: A16Z is re-registering as a financial advisor, renouncing its status as a VC

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tl;dr - A16Z is reclassifying themselves as an "investment advisor", which will allow them to make riskier bets (crypto, real estate, etc). They'll still invest in startups like any other VC firm.

I feel like there's some misunderstanding of what these terms are. All VCs are investment advisors (either Exempt Reporting Advisors or Registered Investment Advisor depending on assets under management and investment types). The article is vague in what it actually means, but it sounds to me like A16Z is going through the process of giving up its VC exemption to the Investment Advisers Act and registering as a RIA.…

it's renouncing the IAA exception, registering as RIA, i confirmed with the Forbes journalist yesterday

Re: A16Z is re-registering as a financial advisor, renouncing its status as a VC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Re Paypal cost, is that micropayments to businesses? I just sent my friend $0.01 and it was free, with a linked bank account. Understood that the bank account payments take a while to settle but we're talking about micropayments so settlement time doesn't really matter Fair point about nanopayments. But what's the win? Why split up the cost per single watt or packet? No one cares about losing one cent per day due to…

> But what's the win? Why split up the cost per single watt or packet? No one cares about losing one cent per day due to rounding errors Honestly with this question you've summed up most of my feelings about blockchains. Humanity feels like it's become more powerful in some very specific way. We have a new tool and we're trying to figure out what it's good for. I've pattern matched this to early reactions to the inte…

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Re: A16Z is re-registering as a financial advisor, renouncing its status as a VC

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post #49

a16z ("our" partner was Chris Dixon) led our seed round at Wit.ai. Working with them on a day-to-day basis was an incredible experience. They never asked for anything, but were always ready to jump in instantly when we needed anything from sales intros to offices in Palo Alto. When we got an offer from Facebook we founders wanted to accept it. They initially disagreed with us, but once we confirmed our decision they…

It's interesting this is the top voted comment when it isn't really substantive to the article's subject matter.

As a would-be founder, this new move from A16Z makes me worry they won't focus on helping startups like this anymore.

Anecdotes like this help quell that fear a bit, even if wrongly.

Re: A16Z is re-registering as a financial advisor, renouncing its status as a VC

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Of everyone I follow it seems it’s only a16z still believes in crypto.

And USV, among the top ones.

Has anyone read Albert Wenger’s http://worldaftercapital.org/ ? That’s my favorite thing about USV’s mindset.

Re: A16Z is re-registering as a financial advisor, renouncing its status as a VC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Re Paypal cost, is that micropayments to businesses? I just sent my friend $0.01 and it was free, with a linked bank account. Understood that the bank account payments take a while to settle but we're talking about micropayments so settlement time doesn't really matter Fair point about nanopayments. But what's the win? Why split up the cost per single watt or packet? No one cares about losing one cent per day due to…

> But what's the win? Why split up the cost per single watt or packet? No one cares about losing one cent per day due to rounding errors Honestly with this question you've summed up most of my feelings about blockchains. Humanity feels like it's become more powerful in some very specific way. We have a new tool and we're trying to figure out what it's good for. I've pattern matched this to early reactions to the inte…

> And if 10 years from now we haven't found a use for nanopayments I'll admit it was a silly idea

Why do you need another 10 years? Bitcoin has already been around for 10 years. The micropayment and tipping use case has been explored fully and has failed.

Re: A16Z is re-registering as a financial advisor, renouncing its status as a VC

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post #49

a16z ("our" partner was Chris Dixon) led our seed round at Wit.ai. Working with them on a day-to-day basis was an incredible experience. They never asked for anything, but were always ready to jump in instantly when we needed anything from sales intros to offices in Palo Alto. When we got an offer from Facebook we founders wanted to accept it. They initially disagreed with us, but once we confirmed our decision they…

> They never asked for anything, but were always ready to jump in instantly when we needed anything from sales intros to offices in Palo Alto. When we got an offer from Facebook we founders wanted to accept it. They initially disagreed with us, but once we confirmed our decision they supported us 100% in the negotiation process. That's what I call class. As an outsider, I'm curious as to how bad the VC situation is i…

It's a good question.

The VC situation _outside_ of SV is generally considered much worse as far as I know. Such that characters in the HBO show would be depressingly accurate or even lightened up a bit.

There are great investors everywhere, but "a deal with the devil" can be the nature of most VC investments if you're not lucky/careful (disclaimer, 2nd/3rd hand)

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