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Easy. The engineers who built it care mostly about their total compensation and getting promoted. They therefore gleefully implement the product requirements. The PMs behind the idea also care about the above, except they are held to account by business objectives. By narrowly optimizing for a particular objective (reducing account fraud) in an unprincipled manner, they come up with an insane feature idea like this.…
I find it fascinating how big tech companies are intent on spending enormous sums of money seeking out the top tech talent in the world. Then rather than listen to them when they voice concerns they try to beat them down into submission. I get that if you worked at a company whose core mission is evil that you just have to accept that when you sign up, but there's no reason facebook needs to be make these active mora…
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#162I just don't understand how this gets implemented without someone speaking up and saying "hey, wait, isn't this an insane thing to do?". I would guess it's some combination of the complainers being ignored, and people at a higher level thinking "well we're doing this in a secure way, as long as the user trusts us, and why wouldn't they trust us, we're Facebook!".
People with any sense of ethics don't work at Facebook.
(I'm shadowed banned by the Donger?)
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#163Congratulations, Zuckerberg just beat Gates in complete lack of Ethical behaviour
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POLi in Australia also asks for your bank username and password, logs into your bank's online portal, and performs a bank transfer on your behalf; which is of course in violation of the bank's policies. It's truly insane, if I see any company accepting payment via POLi it's instant verification the company in question is clueless and that I should avoid using their services whenever possible, because they have zero i…
Trustly does this, too.
But I might be misremembering.
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#165I dont know why anyone with any commonsense still uses Facebook, Instagram or Twitter. They're completely uncontrolled nonsense that I wouldn't trust with my email address. Let alone my phone number. Call me crazy or socially inept, but I value privacy.
Fear Of Missing Out. Many people feel compelled to remain on Facebook because they're afraid of missing out on events that get scheduled through Facebook. But here is what I discovered: people who like you will go out of their way to make sure you get the invitation, even if that means using something barbaric and old fashioned like a phone number or email address. FOMO is probably Facebook's most valuable asset, but…
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The user that found this and is cited in OP's article mentions there was no alternative to giving Facebook your password: https://twitter.com/originalesushi/status/111249895877604966...
Could the alternative be gasp not using facebook?
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LinkedIn has been doing this for years. It's the reason why I don't use it (and the spam they send is the reason why everybody hates them).
You mean emails? I've managed to turn them all off; if that doesn't work, you can file a complaint with the EU who have strict laws against e-mail spam, and the requirement to unsubscribe with as few actions as possible.
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#168I just don't understand how this gets implemented without someone speaking up and saying "hey, wait, isn't this an insane thing to do?". I would guess it's some combination of the complainers being ignored, and people at a higher level thinking "well we're doing this in a secure way, as long as the user trusts us, and why wouldn't they trust us, we're Facebook!".
People with any sense of ethics don't work at Facebook.
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Swedish payment processor Klarna does something similar to this as well. If bying something through the platform by direct bank transfer you are asked to sign to your bank to accept the payment using BankID [0], which is normal. What is not normal is that they grab your personal identification number and send a login request using BankID before you open your app. When authenticating the login you authorize one of Kla…
POLi in Australia also asks for your bank username and password, logs into your bank's online portal, and performs a bank transfer on your behalf; which is of course in violation of the bank's policies. It's truly insane, if I see any company accepting payment via POLi it's instant verification the company in question is clueless and that I should avoid using their services whenever possible, because they have zero i…
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Sure, but is that not what an online password manager is? :P
I want to believe that LastLass uses client side JS to decrypt based on your login credentials, not a plain text database.