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Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by ambicapter »

barkingcat wrote: post #221
ambicapter wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not OP but I think that may be a way of saying, in effect, if one person is being more polite than the other, then they might feel like they are being "more polite than necessary". So his P.S. is saying "please match my politeness level", or, possibly, "You are being impolite, compared to me. Fix that" in an oblique manner.

the wording is quite weird, since people can't really control other people's feelings so how am I to know that I've made them feel a certain way?

Continuing to play devil's advocate, I think implicit is the expectation that all parties know good manners when they see them, which could be yet another way of putting people down in that statement.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by prolepunk »

_bxg1 wrote: post #247
vikingcaffiene wrote: post #157

I find it weird that no one is mentioning that this article is written by an EN competitor. I've been an EN user since 2010. Yes they have had some problems and I have even tried to jump ship (as recently as last fall when I gave DEVONThink a go). I keep coming back though. I've yet to find anything that touches it in terms of features and functionality. Only ones that come close are OneNote and Notion. OneNote is fi…

I really liked Google Keep before I started concerning myself with privacy and boycotted all Google products. It struck the perfect balance between organization and the ability to easily jot things down; one thing I never liked about EN was that every note had to go in a notebook and had to have a title. That would always give me a mental block when I just wanted to write disorganized thoughts and then organize them…

I'm still using google keep and I am concerned about privacy, looking for a an alternative that's neither of those programs.

So far I've been trying to use Gitlab with a bunch of text files. That works, sort of, for more long form notes, but not quite captures the UI.

I'm looking harder and harder on TODO.txt (I didn't know it was open-source). http://todotxt.org/

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by usrusr »

oftenwrong wrote: post #206
mortdeus wrote: post #57

Also i know, at least for me, that when i find myself wanting to take notes most is whenever its a spur of the moment kind of idea that i dont want to lose. In that kind of scenario, i find that a small notebook and pencil is still superior to an app simply because i don't have to think too much about the process of getting myself into a position where i can actually record the idea. Its just too hard to get into the…

>navigate to the app, wait for it to load up, press the + button, type in the idea using your thumbs, write in a title, save it, shit the app just crashed, load the app back up, great my idea wasnt saved, guess ill try writing it again, damn it i wish these notifications would stop popping up and pinging me, uhhh crap what was the clever angle to my idea again? Damn it. This is like the black-and-white scene in an in…

Also sticking to email for notes. It's the one account that I expect to migrate between providers when need arises,whereas something specific to notes I would likely just abandon. Advanced features like sync between devices is already set up and it's searchable, I have encryption when I want it, the UI is familiar.

For even more transient notes I have a widget on my phone's main screen that is just a single, persistent multiline text field without even something as complicated as a save button. It will typically show the number of a hotel room I stayed in months ago or something like that.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by fairramone »

filesystem wrote: post #214
hnhnshah wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi! I am the co-founder of FYI and author of the blog post. We are not an Evernote competitor. In fact we integrate with it and many other document apps.

This is a very strange content to post on your product's blog. What marketing advantage are you seeing from your blog, which seems to only contain this takedown article of a quasi-competitor alongside mostly clickbait posts ("These 10 tips will change your life!").

Strange content indeed. I thought it was interesting but totally inappropriate for a company’s blogging platform. Seems like a cheap shot way to drive traffic to their site.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by _bxg1 »

prolepunk wrote: post #252
_bxg1 wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really liked Google Keep before I started concerning myself with privacy and boycotted all Google products. It struck the perfect balance between organization and the ability to easily jot things down; one thing I never liked about EN was that every note had to go in a notebook and had to have a title. That would always give me a mental block when I just wanted to write disorganized thoughts and then organize them…

I'm still using google keep and I am concerned about privacy, looking for a an alternative that's neither of those programs. So far I've been trying to use Gitlab with a bunch of text files. That works, sort of, for more long form notes, but not quite captures the UI. I'm looking harder and harder on TODO.txt (I didn't know it was open-source). http://todotxt.org/

Currently I'm on Apple's notes app. There are lots of things I don't like about it - rich text formatting needs to die - but it gets the job done and has "jot-ability". I've thought about writing my own dead-simple notes app but just never had the time. Plaintext, dropbox backup, simple substring search, maybe tags, maybe markdown.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by barkingcat »

ambicapter wrote: post #251
barkingcat wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the wording is quite weird, since people can't really control other people's feelings so how am I to know that I've made them feel a certain way?

Continuing to play devil's advocate, I think implicit is the expectation that all parties know good manners when they see them, which could be yet another way of putting people down in that statement.

The people who are rude won't care.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by coffeeling »

vikingcaffiene wrote: post #157

I find it weird that no one is mentioning that this article is written by an EN competitor. I've been an EN user since 2010. Yes they have had some problems and I have even tried to jump ship (as recently as last fall when I gave DEVONThink a go). I keep coming back though. I've yet to find anything that touches it in terms of features and functionality. Only ones that come close are OneNote and Notion. OneNote is fi…

OneNote can do hierarchy just fine. It's partly why I use the thing instead of Evernote: The OneNote hierarchy is in folders, not tags:

https://i.imgur.com/X0qbxg3.png

OneNote's Android app is still a bit iffy of an experience for surfacing notes and reading content (the scrolling can be a bit jittery sideways, and there's no separate edit/read modes), something where Evernote's steady scrolling has it beat. ON Android is amazing for capture, though, but I don't imagine Evernote falling behind much on that count.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by vikingcaffiene »

drb91 wrote: post #213
vikingcaffiene wrote: post #157

I find it weird that no one is mentioning that this article is written by an EN competitor. I've been an EN user since 2010. Yes they have had some problems and I have even tried to jump ship (as recently as last fall when I gave DEVONThink a go). I keep coming back though. I've yet to find anything that touches it in terms of features and functionality. Only ones that come close are OneNote and Notion. OneNote is fi…

To be fair, no notes service is worth paying for—they all have ridiculous cost for providing a commodity service.

thats the thing: a NOTES service is useless. EN is not just a notes service. In fact thats probably its least useful feature. EN is a knowledge database. Its a place to stick stuff you might want to use later. As I've said before, its too bad that no one that works at EN understands this.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by kompressor »

bluesroo wrote: post #218
taude wrote: post #69

I haven't seen too many people mentioning the onslaught of Microsoft One Note in developing a great note-taking tool, that syncs well in the cloud, and integrates with several of their other tools like Word and Outlook. Personallly, as a early Evernote User, once One Note came out for Mac, I switched. And then getting a job somewhere where we used Windows PCs, just solidified it for me, and I never found the need to…

At work we have Office and I decided to give One Note a try. The note taking itself is awesome, but I kept running into an issue where copying and pasting would copy images of what I had highlighted instead of just the text of the notes... After Googling for 3 days I gave up and I'm back to pen and paper.

What version of OneNote were you copying from? And what app were to pasting to?
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