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Re: Launching CakePlate, a boilerplate CakePHP distribution for fast web apps

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Consider Kohana, then, which forked off from CodeIgniter years ago and learned from the many mistakes CI made (most notably being a complete inability to adapt), and was designed with PHP 5 in mind from day one.

i considered it in the past, and i might make the switch with all the internal crap going on with CI. but my biggest current project is CI-based and making the conversion would be...tough. plus, their docs suck.

It looks like they've been working with the community to try and clear a lot of that stuff up, I really enjoy using CI myself so I've been interested. http://codeigniter.com/news/the_official_codeigniter_communi...

Re: Launching CakePlate, a boilerplate CakePHP distribution for fast web apps

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Here's a more recent benchmark: http://symfony-reloaded.org/fast

Odd that they didn't include codeigniter in the test

Probably because if they had, wouldn't have been the fastest in all tests, or at least not by much.

Re: Launching CakePlate, a boilerplate CakePHP distribution for fast web apps

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Consider Kohana, then, which forked off from CodeIgniter years ago and learned from the many mistakes CI made (most notably being a complete inability to adapt), and was designed with PHP 5 in mind from day one.

i considered it in the past, and i might make the switch with all the internal crap going on with CI. but my biggest current project is CI-based and making the conversion would be...tough. plus, their docs suck.

You may also want to look at CI's 2.0 development branch.

They've rebuilt much of the base code on top of PHP 5 natively now instead of being built on PHP 4 with hacks to make it also work with 5.

Although it is still in development, it has been said that it is stable.

Re: Launching CakePlate, a boilerplate CakePHP distribution for fast web apps

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i considered it in the past, and i might make the switch with all the internal crap going on with CI. but my biggest current project is CI-based and making the conversion would be...tough. plus, their docs suck.

You may also want to look at CI's 2.0 development branch. They've rebuilt much of the base code on top of PHP 5 natively now instead of being built on PHP 4 with hacks to make it also work with 5. Although it is still in development, it has been said that it is stable.

i use it already. it isn't anything especially different.

Re: Launching CakePlate, a boilerplate CakePHP distribution for fast web apps

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CakePHP comes with that out of the box. You can use the built-in Auth component for registration and user management, and the "Bake" tools will give you the option of creating admin functions, similar to Django's.

I use CakePHP (actually forced to). You can't compare the bake tools with Django admin. The UI of Django admin is usable in fact it's actually nice. I've had lot's of clients who like it. But the generated CSS by the bake tools is non-usable. I usually end up having to write the views for admin when using CakePHP compared to not having to do anything much when using Django.

> the generated CSS by the bake tools is non-usable.

Bake doesn't generate css, it generates view scripts. The default CSS is supposed to be over ridden by your own style sheet. Django-admin is like a gimped version of bake, it's actually closer to Cake's auto scaffold.

Re: Launching CakePlate, a boilerplate CakePHP distribution for fast web apps

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These benchmarks are from two years ago. The version of Cake used isn't even a stable release (1.2 RC1). Either way 1.3 has replaced 1.2 and is plenty fast for 99.99999% of sites.

Another benchmark source... http://www.yiiframework.com/performance/ Take with a grain of salt.

http://www.phpkode.com another PHP Framework source
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