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I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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RandomBacon wrote: post #314
numbsafari wrote: post #285

> Waiting 4 months for a minimal response from a vendor with > such a large percentage of the market is unacceptable. Umm... expecting any kind of response from a vendor with such a large percentage of the market is... kinda arrogant. Who are you to demand any kind of response from anyone? Big project or small? You'd probably be less offended if you had a better sense of self awareness about the nature of your relati…

> expecting any kind of response from a vendor with such a large percentage of the market is... kinda arrogant. Are you saying Google is too big to be responsible? Amazon is huge, and I'm able to get a customer service represenatitve in seconds.

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Post by yellowapple »

hluska wrote: post #328
numbsafari wrote: post #285

> Waiting 4 months for a minimal response from a vendor with > such a large percentage of the market is unacceptable. Umm... expecting any kind of response from a vendor with such a large percentage of the market is... kinda arrogant. Who are you to demand any kind of response from anyone? Big project or small? You'd probably be less offended if you had a better sense of self awareness about the nature of your relati…

I have a few points: 1. Why do you have to be so rude? Maybe this isn’t intentional, but your words are mocking and insulting. Do you actually think you could change someone’s mind spouting off like that? If so, you don’t understand humans. If not, that comment was a giant waste of time. 2. If the way you spoke to this person represents how you wish to conduct yourself, perhaps it would be wise to remove the ‘we’re h…

That comment didn't really read as any more rude than your own, IMO. Maybe you're just responding to rudeness with rudeness, though, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there.

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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Post by notyourday »

microcolonel wrote: post #184
jerf wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"when Netflix came begging for a solution to their DRM conundrum" Does Netflix DRM even "work"? I've never personally seriously looked around for how to break it, but I note there are still plenty of people who seem to manage to review Netflix-based shows on YouTube with video clips of sufficient quality [1], and at least some of the reviewers in question I am fairly confident aren't getting any sort of privileged ba…

HDCP is broken, so people just get their captures from there I think. The Widevine stuff is also clearly not as trusted by publishers, which is why they only publish 720p streams on it IIRC. I think this is because it gets less help from the platform to prevent copying the frames.

There are gazillion of 1:2 and 1:4 Chinese video splitters that strip HDCP from up to 4K sources letting any capture card rip anything that can be played on up to 4K TV.

I have had the 1080p one for 5 years.

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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Post by the8472 »

ktm5j wrote: post #253

I also find the title to be rather sensational.. "I tried creating a web browser" ^ "Google blocked me" implies that Google blocked them from creating a web browser.. which is not the case.

EME is part of web standards. So for some value of standards compliant web browser google can block you from implementing it.

https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/REC-encrypted-media-20170918/

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Post by klyrs »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #273
klyrs wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. The owners of coal mines, and the owners of coal power plants, are to blame. That specific industry has come at a terrible cost of human life and the environment, which wasn't even news last century. The people with the money and power to get a coal plant built, are to blame. I don't have choice in where I get my power. Lobbyists pay politicians to decide where my electricity is generated. If you started cooking…

You're unfortunate if you don't have a choice of where you get your power - we do in the UK - and can readily take action, eg at the ballot box, to change that situation. Meth isn't really a comparable need. However, suppose dodgy crack (cut with crap), or paracetamol, was available for treating headaches: you can choose the paracetamol which makes you partially responsible for keeping the dodgy crack producers/deale…

> You're unfortunate if you don't have a choice of where you get your power - we do in the UK - and can readily take action, eg at the ballot box, to change that situation.

I live in a representative democracy with extremely limited and polarized choice of politicians, ALL of whom are taking money from big oil. Unfortunate, indeed -- my lack of choice harms the entire world.

And no, meth is a great analogy: sure increases productivity, damn the consequences

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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Post by ktm5j »

danShumway wrote: post #311
ktm5j wrote: post #253

I also find the title to be rather sensational.. "I tried creating a web browser" ^ "Google blocked me" implies that Google blocked them from creating a web browser.. which is not the case.

If a single company can effectively decide whether a bunch of 3rd party sites that they don't control work on your browser, how is that any different? Google is effectively deciding that anyone other than pre-approved browsers can't play Netflix content. If an ISP fully embraced the Net Neutrality repeal and started blocking video content, and someone posted on HN that ISPs were "blocking them from building a streami…

I never meant to suggest that this wasn't a big deal, just that the title was intentionally dramatic to get more views.

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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Post by Mindwipe »

krzyk wrote: post #277
kwindla wrote: post #256

Let's add the US Congress and the EU to the long list of parties to blame for the DRM situation. "Reverse engineering" software for the purposes of "circumventing" copyright is illegal. "Circumventing" is much more broadly defined than it should be. It's not just illegal to redistribute copyrighted material. That's the point of copyright and has been the case for a long time. It's also illegal to watch/consume conten…

The above is most probably for US based clients. E.g. in Poland it is perfectly legal to watch copyrighted material as long as you don't redistribute it. It is also legal to do a reverse engineering of software to allow it to run on your system, software, hardware (so I think a browser also applies). (I'm not a lawyer, just reading some of the more technical law articles)

> (I'm not a lawyer, just reading some of the more technical law articles)

I'd advise not giving out bad advice then stating absolutes about the legal situation that are wrong.

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