French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

Post by nerdponx » Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 5:13 PM UTC

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Given that those were torrent sites, they weren’t hosting the content. The individuals seeding the content still likely have copies of it. They just have no easy, obvious place to share it where they won’t get in trouble for doing so... for now. But if such a technology shows up later, the (already ripped and preserved) content might just show back up along with it.

The /r/datahoarder subreddit is full of people like this. I'm happy they exist, if nothing else so at least there may be a digital record of our civilization if it's destroyed.

Post by yardie » Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 5:21 PM UTC

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Could you give me an example?

What.cd hosted, among other things, three unpublished Salinger stories. They were swiftly taken down by the site hosts over demands from his estate, but narrowly made it onto BitTorrent and other sites, and are still available today. Meanwhile, a lot of unique live-concert recordings (often made with the band's permission, unlike the Salinger tapes) vanished with the demise of What.CD. Presumably some people still ha…

Post by orbifold » Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 5:42 PM UTC

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You can typically get any paper your university library has a subscription to via the libraries online portal or if you are in the university network already at the undergraduate and masters level. If some journal is not available at the library you can request an interlibrary „loan“ which just means that someone at another library will copy the article and send it to you, typically for free.

I have been registered as a student in 5 French universities and I can tell you that even if I can get "any" paper if I can enter a library (which is a joke in itself), sci-hub is 10 times more convient than the bureaucracy involved. The only time I requested a book from the stock, the librarian didn't even give it to me pretexting it was lost... probably because did like me as I had an unopened sandwich in hand.

Post by 0815test » Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 6:05 PM UTC

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> Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. This just reminds of how in the late nineties and early 2000s we used to have torrent sites for music enthusiasts with an archive of all the different versions, editions, bootlegs, all painstakingly added and catalogued, representing tens if not hundreds of man-hours wo…

>And then it all was destroyed. We still have communities like that, but you need the right connections to get in.

Post by narag » Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 6:13 PM UTC

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I don't know about other countries, but in Spain the left wing is the best friend of the copyright lobby.

Are they "left-wing" or socially left neoliberals. There is a difference between "left-wing" as in economic AND social leftism vs the sort of neoliberal, "Third Way" politics, which equal socially left-wing, but economically center-right. Most of the "social democratic" parties in Europe are that way these days. They don't really champion economic populism, wealth redistribution etc.