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Re: Show HN: Open-Source Business Intelligence for BigQuery – Looker Alternative

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Link to the open source part? I can't seem to find any on the site...

There's a github link at the top of the page: https://github.com/mprove-io/mprove

Oh, had to rotate my phone, does not show up in the menu on a smaller screen layout.

Re: Show HN: Open-Source Business Intelligence for BigQuery – Looker Alternative

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this is super cool and i would pay for this. Bigquery is a cheap alternative to a lot of the mobile analytics tools.

Quick point however - why do you need a new database ? You can use a table inside bigquery itself. It seriously reduces the dependencies required.

Re: Show HN: Open-Source Business Intelligence for BigQuery – Looker Alternative

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a github link at the top of the page: https://github.com/mprove-io/mprove

Oh, had to rotate my phone, does not show up in the menu on a smaller screen layout.

Wow, very different menus on mobile based on orientation. Vertical has “Pricing” and no open source mention. Horizontal gives a GitHub link and no mention of pricing.

I assume there was a time when this was meant to be a non-open source project.

Re: Show HN: Open-Source Business Intelligence for BigQuery – Looker Alternative

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@akalitenya are you even in the clear with this? Some of the Old LookML syntax is an exact copy.

But more importantly, the challenge for any such tool is to go beyond use by 2-3 people. At 2-3 people anything will work. Where BI tools (open source and close source) struggle is scale: having all the right features for, essentially, a group of users who actually don't know how to work with data (did I just say that aloud?). Chartio caps at 20 people. RJ capped at 50-100 (and later became Stitch for that reason). We haven't seen where Metabase caps, but I bet it is in a similar range. Very few BI products have actually surpassed 100 users at target installations. And beyond 1,000 is a real challenge that only few, and even then with a lot of assistance, can support: Tableau, Looker, Microstrategy, maybe Birst, maybe Domo.

Also, a combination of BI with LookML is a complicated product. During my days at Looker, we were handling 50+ bugs / week, and filing 1,000+ tickets. Every day we were filing over a 100 new features.

So with all that, the question is, is it really worth the struggle? What's the end vision for supporting this? Why should someone who implements BI for a living bet on this product?

Re: Show HN: Open-Source Business Intelligence for BigQuery – Looker Alternative

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@akalitenya are you even in the clear with this? Some of the Old LookML syntax is an exact copy. But more importantly, the challenge for any such tool is to go beyond use by 2-3 people. At 2-3 people anything will work. Where BI tools (open source and close source) struggle is scale: having all the right features for, essentially, a group of users who actually don't know how to work with data (did I just say that alo…

I agree with pretty much everything you've said. However, as someone who has used Chartio extensively, I'd say 20 is wayyy too low. It can definitely handle 100s. But, like you said, 1,000s is a struggle for anyone.

Also, if you think this is a rip off of LookML, you should take a look at what GitLab is doing with Meltano. They completely jacked LookML.

Re: Show HN: Open-Source Business Intelligence for BigQuery – Looker Alternative

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@akalitenya are you even in the clear with this? Some of the Old LookML syntax is an exact copy. But more importantly, the challenge for any such tool is to go beyond use by 2-3 people. At 2-3 people anything will work. Where BI tools (open source and close source) struggle is scale: having all the right features for, essentially, a group of users who actually don't know how to work with data (did I just say that alo…

What is the main reason that LookML is complicated product?

Re: Show HN: Open-Source Business Intelligence for BigQuery – Looker Alternative

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, had to rotate my phone, does not show up in the menu on a smaller screen layout.

Wow, very different menus on mobile based on orientation. Vertical has “Pricing” and no open source mention. Horizontal gives a GitHub link and no mention of pricing. I assume there was a time when this was meant to be a non-open source project.

thanks, i just fixed it
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