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Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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I suspect in the near future devices sold in China will be unable to install certain apps (similar to how Apple recently removed Taiwan's national flag for all Macs sold in China with its latest update - https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/11109235618820... ), foreign browsers will stop working (and be forced to implement support for this functionality to the extent that the Chinese government can not only…

They’ll rewrite any article that they feel is a threat to their power systems and therefore a threat to China. No surprise there. We have similar measures in the US - the government is willing to strip your rights if they feel you’re a threat. There is nothing really all that new in what you’ve suggested. I would be surprised if those things didn’t happen.

I've never seen any major browser (or some other method) censor/rewrite an individual page that's protected by SSL before.. as far as I know then it's not possible, which is why they've had to resort to banning the entire website (which in GitHub's case would be too costly).. If you know about previous incidents then please do share.

From today we know they are already able to do whatever they please (as long as they can get people to use their browser).. abuse other organizations reputation to spread lies and misinformation. If governments don't act then it won't be long until all these Huawei, Lenovo, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, etc devices come with their browsers preinstalled (and likely default back to their browser to open links from other apps even if you tried to change the browser).

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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I suspect in the near future devices sold in China will be unable to install certain apps (similar to how Apple recently removed Taiwan's national flag for all Macs sold in China with its latest update - https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/11109235618820... ), foreign browsers will stop working (and be forced to implement support for this functionality to the extent that the Chinese government can not only…

Angry comments that begin "I suspect" do not count as substantive on HN.

If you continue to break the site guidelines by using HN primarily for political battle, we're going to ban you, as I explained yesterday. That's not because we support dystopian surveillance, evil dictatorships, or whatnot. It's because we need to protect the commons here as a place for intellectual curiosity, rather than a scorched-earth battlefield.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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I suspect in the near future devices sold in China will be unable to install certain apps (similar to how Apple recently removed Taiwan's national flag for all Macs sold in China with its latest update - https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/11109235618820... ), foreign browsers will stop working (and be forced to implement support for this functionality to the extent that the Chinese government can not only…

What an interesting implementation of 1984's "Ministry of Truth", just threaten the commercial providers of your crap with market exclusion.

It always irks me that we (I and my non-tech friends) now communicate using media controlled by corporations, e.g. WhatsApp or FB Messenger, or Google Chat. At least email is still open. On FB Messenger you can't share PirateBay URLs because they "may be harmful to your computer".

It'd be wonderfully dystopian if desperate Mark agreed to China's requirements so he could gain a few more million advertising targets in "the growing market", and after that point you'd no longer be able to talk about Taiwan because, let's see, how about the error message "this topic may be harmful to the national security of China"?

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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Overtime in China is the norm, in factories, if you do 40 hrs per week, you will only get the minimum wage in your city, mostly around 200 dollars a month, and you will get kicked real quick.

This looks more like an industry behavior, which is not uncommon in China, for example Tencent blocked on its WeChat self-media platform(a little like Facebook's Instant Articles but much more low-brow and dominant) unflattering articles about PinDuoDuo when it was goinf public in the US, which they invested in.

Cellphone reviewers has long been under control of the brands, they give out guidlines about how to write the review along with test units, manage them in their work groups.

The 360 Chrome brower queries these URLs every time you start the browser or open a URL, namely to give the url a safety and info badge.

site.browser.360.cn

cdata.browser.360.cn

cdn.weather.hao.360.cn

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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This is currently listed as the most starred repository on Github with 153k stars:

https://github.com/search?q=stars%3A%3E0&s=stars&type=Reposi... (There was the freeCodeCamp repo with 300k stars, but I don't see it in the list anymore.)

I am surprised that this protest does not get more media coverage. Also, Alibaba and Huawei are in the list of companies...

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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How come operators of the github page are not in some reeducation camp, or elimitated? Seems like the censors are not as knowing as we thought.

As long as you are very clear you are not directing your anger at the government, it's usually ok to protest in China. For example, there are often mass protests if wages are not paid to factory workers, etc. https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-migrant-workers-protest-un...

Maybe I interpret it wrong, but here is a tricky point: You have to apply for government's permission to do a legal on-street protest.

ref: http://www.npc.gov.cn/wxzl/gongbao/1989-10/31/content_148121... (Chapter 2 Article 7, Chinese)

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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post #33
post #19

I suspect in the near future devices sold in China will be unable to install certain apps (similar to how Apple recently removed Taiwan's national flag for all Macs sold in China with its latest update - https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/11109235618820... ), foreign browsers will stop working (and be forced to implement support for this functionality to the extent that the Chinese government can not only…

Angry comments that begin "I suspect" do not count as substantive on HN. If you continue to break the site guidelines by using HN primarily for political battle, we're going to ban you, as I explained yesterday. That's not because we support dystopian surveillance, evil dictatorships, or whatnot. It's because we need to protect the commons here as a place for intellectual curiosity, rather than a scorched-earth battl…

So now HN readers are not allowed to make predictions based on past and recent behaviour and revelations (that in my opinion make these predictions extremely likely)? Anyhow it's your site, your rules. I visit HN to discover new technology, and engage mostly with privacy-related discussions (since other topics that interest me rarely if ever appear on HN). If you think the site would be better off without my comments then feel free to ban me.

Re: Major Chinese-made web browsers are reportedly blocking 996ICU's GitHub repo

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as you are very clear you are not directing your anger at the government, it's usually ok to protest in China. For example, there are often mass protests if wages are not paid to factory workers, etc. https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-migrant-workers-protest-un...

Maybe I interpret it wrong, but here is a tricky point: You have to apply for government's permission to do a legal on-street protest. ref: http://www.npc.gov.cn/wxzl/gongbao/1989-10/31/content_148121... (Chapter 2 Article 7, Chinese)

Also in Germany, you have to announce it to the Police
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