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I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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This is why I break DRM when I can, treating its presence as advisory at best.

From a balancing test standpoint, if you want a technological solution to people copying your work then I think you should not be allowed to claim copyright protection of your work. Pick a legal or technical solution to unauthorized copying, not both.

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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post #3

> For the last 2 years I’ve been working on a web browser that now cannot be completed because Google, the creators of the open source browser Chrome, won’t allow DRM in an open source project. It can too be completed, you're just not gonna have DRM'd content. I have a browser that has the same problem, and I just leave pages that can't do video playback (which doesn't include YouTube because they use WebM). There's…

Youtube has DRM and has nothing to do with WebM. It's just that not all the content is DRM-ed.

Wait really? With what videos does YouTube depend on Widevine DRM?

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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post #6

Sorry, for those of us not privy to how Widevine works, what's the problem exactly? What do you need Google's approval for and why?

Yes, you need Google's approval because now all major browsers have a black-box/binary blob which downloads other funky binary stuff so that it can decrypt video content. As you might figure out Google/Wildevine org gives the blackbox only to approved developers/devices/applications.

Bonus DRM: If your license is not "the most certified" your browser/player will play only shitty/low quality versions of the video. There are other goodies of course like not being able to play the content offline.

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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post #6

Sorry, for those of us not privy to how Widevine works, what's the problem exactly? What do you need Google's approval for and why?

It is in the article:

>As far as I’m aware, Widevine is the only available DRM for a Chromium-based browser, especially so for Electron.

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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The blame for this sits squarely on the w3c for their efforts in trying to replace flash by letting the content companies dictate standards for encrypted playback. If they had held fast, we could have forced the companies to do their key management in something like WebAssembly and avoided this gatekeeping mess.

No, if the Director had overridden the majority of the membership, the browser vendors would've shipped something anyway, and the YouTubes and Netflixes of the world would be using it anyway.

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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The blame for this sits squarely on the w3c for their efforts in trying to replace flash by letting the content companies dictate standards for encrypted playback. If they had held fast, we could have forced the companies to do their key management in something like WebAssembly and avoided this gatekeeping mess.

The W3C exists partly to take the blame off of its members for the decisions that they agree to unanimously. Blame the W3C members for their decision to screw the user.

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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post #6

Sorry, for those of us not privy to how Widevine works, what's the problem exactly? What do you need Google's approval for and why?

Widevine is a DRM scheme. You need a license and information from Google to decode it without breaking the DRM.

The Widevine CDM is publicly available but you are not allowed to redistribute it. Firefox seems to have no problem downloading it at runtime. In worst case the user could manually download it.

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you hack around it?

By getting media from "alternative" DRM free sources.

I've acquired media from "the usual places" for which I own the physical disc because it's easier and faster than handbraking it myself.

Re: I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me

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post #5

So google won't let you use there DRM. Firefox doesn't support this. Don't allow DRM sources hulu/netflix otherwise make a deal with each company. Your problem is with the video providers not a third party who has a solution you want to use.

> Firefox doesn't support this.

Firefox does support either exactly this or something compatible.

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