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French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by jacquesm »

dTal wrote: post #238
yipbub wrote: post #194

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Could you give me an example?

Sure. Mooi were formed in 1999, split in 2006, made a bunch of great music in between, and all that remains is this one song on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF5cP8S0zOk The masters still exist, I'm told, but that's no good to anyone - they won't be re-released because it would require too much intellectual property wrangling and nobody cares enough to bother, and sooner or later that hard drive will die a…

Mooi! Thank you for that link.

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Post by AGWeir »

jimktrains2 wrote: post #193
codedokode wrote: post #185

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What if we look at the sitiuation from publishers' point of view? Yesterday those weird scientints gave to you the rights to their works, and the next day they demand that you allow them to read their works for free.

> Yesterday those weird scientints gave to you the rights to their works. Yesterday there weren't any, let alone good, alternatives. Even today with good alternatives, the way publishing in "high impact" journals is tied to pay can make the issue not really have other options. Free access to knowledge is fairly foundational to science and something that's has been talked about for a while. This isn't a new problem. I…

In the UK all research councils and the National Institute for Health Research awards carry restrictions that everything is made open access. It is a step in the right direction but it also means that more government funding is just going to journals via paying article processing charges

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terryschiavo22 wrote: post #260
xorand wrote: post #215

This was demanded by Elsevier and Springer, as the copy of the order shows https://torrentfreak.com/images/scihuborder.pdf . Every researcher who still is an editor of one of their journals is responsible for this. Any academic manager who supports these journals, either by buying them or by counting impact factor points, is responsible of this. People should know that all of these people who support this are paid fr…

Any chance of getting a SFW version of that link? I can't click on a torrentfreak.com link, even if it probably is benign.

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Post by ptaipale »

seszett wrote: post #127
ptaipale wrote: post #27

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I'm slightly baffled by the difference, though, as some other laws are not enforced. For instance, the case where directors of a tyre manufacturer were forcibly taken hostage and physically abused by the workers. Normally, you'd send in the police, arrest hostage-takers and give them long imprisonment.

You're implying that the hostage takers where not arrested or given imprisonment, but in the case of the Goodyear employees they were arrested and sentenced to 24 months imprisonment (15 months suspended). That's what the victim party had asked for too, so I don't understand what problem there is with this judgment?

Thanks - I did not know that. The hostage-taking did make headlines internationally, any subsequent trial less so.

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Post by stale2002 »

class4behavior wrote: post #259
leereeves wrote: post #251

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> the content which they legally yet immorally sell The real foul is when the government enforces immoral laws.

If you allow illegal activity as a form of protest—when it is not the absolutely last option—, then you negate the legitimacy of the law in general. So even if you argue your illegal action was the best possible measure to move society forward, you still have to accept the consequences for breaking the law. In this case it is the presence of a legal device allowing to censor copyright-infringing sources which is bad;…

The best way to get a law changed is for everyone to be breaking it all of the time.

Laws only works because everyone follows it most of the time. If everyone is breaking a law, the government can't punish everyone, and eventually people start to wonder why it is a law in the first place.

We've seen this happen with other laws in the past, quite often. Pot legalization comes to mind.

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Post by tapoxi »

Vaskivo wrote: post #227
vanderZwan wrote: post #142

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> Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. This just reminds of how in the late nineties and early 2000s we used to have torrent sites for music enthusiasts with an archive of all the different versions, editions, bootlegs, all painstakingly added and catalogued, representing tens if not hundreds of man-hours wo…

I remember a torrent site for old games. You had tremendous community efforts documenting and cataloging games. Gathering every thing from the different releases, patches, music, art, etc. It was a gaming historian's wet dream. They were even beginning to record the releases from different warez scene groups. But everything went away because, form what I gathered, someone in EA noticed you could download FIFA 96 for…

I imagine EA doesn't care about sales of FIFA 96, but they sure as shit worry about losing their FIFA license.

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

GorgeRonde wrote: post #99

Bought a book on GooglePlay once. Wanted to download it as an ePub. ePub wasn't available due to a technical error on Google's side (apparently affecting all epubs). Had to use Adobe Digital Editions to "download" it only to figure out the download wasn't available. + DRMs (i.e. can't read the ebook on a smartphone). Went to libgen instead, will never buy a book on GooglePlay again.

Same. Except I didn't know about Libgen so I spun up a windows vm and installed some dubious software to extract the epub.

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Post by Dirlewanger »

yipbub wrote: post #194
dTal wrote: post #188

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More like hundreds of man-years, when you factor in all the editions, bootlegs etc that are now forever lost to time. This should be a golden age for information preservation. Instead it's a dark age. I personally know several eye-wateringly good bands whose catalogs are not available anywhere, at all.

Could you give me an example?

what.cd. I only used it sparingly, but apparently they had a lot of rare releases that existed nowhere else. Vanished overnight with the feds taking it down.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by Dirlewanger »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #169
vanderZwan wrote: post #142

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> Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. This just reminds of how in the late nineties and early 2000s we used to have torrent sites for music enthusiasts with an archive of all the different versions, editions, bootlegs, all painstakingly added and catalogued, representing tens if not hundreds of man-hours wo…

Soulseek is still pretty solid A lot of it was about album collecting which frankly is not working the same anymore Personally I am sad iOS poorly supports listening mixes plus Soundcloud slowly destroying itself...

Soulseek is great, but you're essentially taking a gamble hoping that you aren't downloading some shitty transcode.
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