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Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by jmcs »

Vinnl wrote: post #556

I presume this is only for the US Burger King? Although there are perfectly fine plant-based alternatives available in the Netherlands, after all the hype about the Impossible and Beyond burgers on HN I'm curious to give either a try. Edit: Found a different article [1] that says: > Burger King is giving the Impossible Burger a trial run in 59 restaurants in the St. Louis area, and if that goes well, the fast-food ch…

There are places with Beyond Burger in Berlin and it's one of the best patties I tried, to the point were some non-vegetarians friends choose it when available.

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Post by mikekchar »

tialaramex wrote: post #579
briandear wrote: post #520

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Farmers in Europe and Canada are also heavily subsidized.

Food security. Anywhere paying attention to history knows that you can get starved into submission, so if you don't have food security any money you spent on walls, navies, missile silos etcetera was pointless. So it makes good public policy sense to subsidize local food production and/or have high tariffs on imported food. In WWII Britain came closest to having to surrender due to food shortages. It didn't have then…

Not to dispute your main point, but in Japan more than 1 million people died of starvation after the US blockades in WWII. It's the reason it is illegal to import staple foods into Japan to this day. The question of whether or not Japan would have surrendered without nuclear attacks is still very much an open one. It's really hard to say what the Japanese government was thinking at the time, but I can say that my mother in law told me that the only reason she survived is because her uncle had a garden and had a few sweet potatoes. Most people that were alive during the war suffers still from ill health as a result of malnutrition at the time. It has given me considerable cause to re-evaluate things I thought I knew.

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Post by zzzeek »

intopieces wrote: post #491
zzzeek wrote: post #355

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Specifically there's suspicion regarding soy protein isolates which are produced in an industrial setting using hexane: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2010/04/a-study-found-he... additionally, soy's estrogenic nature (combined with the disproportionately widespread use of soy in processed food products, which would be the "not natural" part) is suspected of having potential influences on breast cancer, male fert…

The soy thing is long disproved. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/soy/

many soy studies are heavily influenced by corporate interests not unlike how Coca Cola and tobacco companies in the past have had extreme influence on the scientific community so while I still eat soy I will continue to avoid the industrially processed variety, but thanks for showing me things I already have read.

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Post by Symmetry »

tialaramex wrote: post #568
patothon wrote: post #524

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I eat meat and occasionally eat impossible burgers to reduce my meat consumption, and you can definitely tell. Just not as good.

Yeah, the place in Brixton that sells these has made a big deal every time I've eaten there about how hey, this doesn't have meat in it, and I'm like "I know, believe me, if you made burgers with meat that were like this I would never eat here again". It's passable, but it is not good. Like you I'm conscious of the need to consume less meat, and these burgers are a step, but let's hope this isn't the destination. The…

For me I wouldn't say they're as good as the burgers I would normally have on rare occasion but the ones I've had were better than the sort of burger I'd expect to get at Burger King, where they're being introduced.

As a heathen who likes to have things like jalapenos on my burger I think I'm quicker to embrace it than I would be if I liked my burgers straight.

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Post by functionstooge »

brandonmenc wrote: post #247
scott_s wrote: post #174

The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…

It's a good start, but it's so, so oily, even compared to a meat burger - and the oil seeps out all over the place. It's such a mess that I eat them with a fork. I'd rather eat something like a black bean burger, but I also eat meat so I'm not looking for my vegetable burgers replicate the experience.

It definitely depends on how it’s cooked. I’ve had quite a few of these and certain places tend to make them oily. I’ve found that to be the case when ordering a Beyond Meat patty as well from Carl’s Jr./Hardys even though they aren’t nearly as oily when I make them myself.

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Post by Vinnl »

jmcs wrote: post #611
Vinnl wrote: post #556

I presume this is only for the US Burger King? Although there are perfectly fine plant-based alternatives available in the Netherlands, after all the hype about the Impossible and Beyond burgers on HN I'm curious to give either a try. Edit: Found a different article [1] that says: > Burger King is giving the Impossible Burger a trial run in 59 restaurants in the St. Louis area, and if that goes well, the fast-food ch…

There are places with Beyond Burger in Berlin and it's one of the best patties I tried, to the point were some non-vegetarians friends choose it when available.

Oh sweet, will have to check that out next time I'm in Berlin - thanks for the tip.

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Post by scott_s »

dragonwriter wrote: post #605
random878 wrote: post #567

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It's quite clear the OP is speaking in an anecdotal manner. The use of [citation needed] is one of the most infuriating, passive-aggressive internet trends perpetrated by people who clearly don't understand the point of citations [1]. [1] citation not required

> It's quite clear the OP is speaking in an anecdotal manner. No, it wasn't; OP made a universal claim (“most people” not “most people I know”), and a claim of irony which makes more sense with a real geerality. I actually assumed (and, in fact, still assume despite your interjection) that the not_a_pizza had some basis for making that general claim, and merely omitted it, perhaps because they assumed others were fam…

I agree, but there are less snarky ways to say that.

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Post by KozmoNau7 »

Not_a_pizza wrote: post #369
scott_s wrote: post #174

The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…

The irony is that most people have given up on Burger King because of the poor dietary selection. In the breakfast menu, there is almost nothing to eat that is not high cholesterol and/or fattening. If Burger King manages to leverage this new item effectively, they could assist in saving the lives of the same people that they are helping to make piss poor life choices with.

The impossible burger isn't really noticably healthier than a beef burger. It still has roughly the same calories, saturated fats and so on.

Anectodally, it does make you feel slightly less bloated, though.

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Post by Forbo »

odyssey7 wrote: post #365
mratzloff wrote: post #301

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As a vegetarian and former meat eater, I've had an "impossible taco" a couple of times. I don't want or crave meat, but they tasted very good. However, the texture totally weirded me out and both times I checked more than once to make sure they didn't accidentally serve me meat. I would wager a meat eater wouldn't know the difference if they were accidentally served these vegetarian tacos instead of beef.

In a fast food environment, as a vegetarian, I don’t think I would order this unless there was an easy way for me to verify which burger I was eating.

I still would. It still signals to the restaurant that I want the non-meat option. If they slip up, oh well, and at that point it would be more wasteful for me to throw the "real" burger out.
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