The name notification permission is misleading. Because what it actually does is run any code from websites you aren't even visiting currently.
Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
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Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed completely. - Why are dialogs still a thing? - Why is stealing focus still a thing? Browser makers, operating system manufacturers: Stop it. Dialogs are hot garbage, and users ALONE should have control over input focus. If you need the user's attention flash/animate. If you cannot make a thing without a dialog, focus lock, or focus theft then maybe the thing you were trying to make was inherently a bad idea. W…
Firefox and Chrome don't steal focus in this dialog. It's not modal either.
Firefox absolutely steals focus for this permissions dialog, as recently as AFTER you made that post (Firefox 66.0.1).
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#183Those omnipresent dialogs are a cancer on the web. It was the worst idea ever.
I actually can't believe the browser vendors made basically the same mistake as the obnoxious JS "alert()"
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it's not. Currently on legitimate and decently built sites I get a custom JS modal popup that asks me to accept the location request before they even request location access. They do this because otherwise their location request gets dismissed by users out of habbit and then people don't know how to reenable it. It's shit UX. Notifications and always on location access should be a bell icon in the url bar. Think…
I think this bell meme is less widespread than you think. I can't imagine the people I know concluding that the notification permission is hidden under a bell icon, let alone find it intuitive.
I wasn't claiming it was well known, in this case I don't think it matters. I assumed anyone that really cares would throw up an arrow and some blinking text pointing at it. Yes, this will be ugly, just like every site I visit asking if they can send me private messages whenever they want is ugly.
That said, the bell icon not being intuitive doesnt stop YouTube.
Likewise, channels switched to "like, comment, subscribe, and don't forget to hit the bell." Literally overnight.
I just see this concern as a non issue.
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#185These are super annoying in Safari, too. Apple needs to take note and follow Firefox’s lead here.
You can completely disable them for all websites, and allow notifications for some websites.
I disabled them and never see them anymore.
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#186>> Most prompts are dismissed, while almost 19% of prompts caused users to leave the site immediately after being confronted with them.
Finally! Some numbers from a respectable source showing that most pop-us are bad for user engagement.
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#187Serious question though: has anyone here ever used the notifications for anything other than web based IM (slack, whatsapp)? I think the use case for legit notifications is very small, thus the UI should be an opt-in, rather than an intrusive pop-up. I never understood why browser makers gave it such a prominent UI, and of course in this attention seeking market it was bound to be abused. The new UI that Firefox is s…
I've seen some sites that do long tasks use them to alert you when the task is finished, so you can do something else while waiting and not miss when it finishes.
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#188Serious question though: has anyone here ever used the notifications for anything other than web based IM (slack, whatsapp)? I think the use case for legit notifications is very small, thus the UI should be an opt-in, rather than an intrusive pop-up. I never understood why browser makers gave it such a prominent UI, and of course in this attention seeking market it was bound to be abused. The new UI that Firefox is s…
I've used it for letting customers know that artwork is ready for approval on a custom printing site. We give them the option of notification between email, text, and browser notification and our artists average creating a proof for approval in under an hour. Last time I checked, we have about 5% of people opt for browser notification only which is higher than I expected.
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#189This “feature” is abused terribly around the web. For every site with useful notifications like gmail, there are 10 which misuse it. Yesterday I had the misfortune of misclicking on the prompt from a website. I started getting notifications like “YOUR COMPUTER IS INFECTED WITH A VIRUS”. Turning off notifications for that website took at least 4 clicks through Chrome settings. Good to know there is a setting to turn i…
If you like it, feel free to enable telemetry. But why force me to enable it as well?
Exactly for actions like this which they've done in the post. Would you prefer a more obvious switch on setup?
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#190IMO, it makes more sense to require that the permission prompt is tied to a button instead of directly triggered by a script.
IE, the only way to display the permission prompt is to put a button on the page, and then the permission prompt is only shown when the user clicks the button.