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Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

Emma_Goldman wrote: post #573
tialaramex wrote: post #568

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Yeah, the place in Brixton that sells these has made a big deal every time I've eaten there about how hey, this doesn't have meat in it, and I'm like "I know, believe me, if you made burgers with meat that were like this I would never eat here again". It's passable, but it is not good. Like you I'm conscious of the need to consume less meat, and these burgers are a step, but let's hope this isn't the destination. The…

"They've taken the "veggie burger" from "actually I've changed my mind, I'm not hungry after all" to reluctant acceptance." This sounds like small-minded prejudice. Of all of the ingredients with which you can make veggie burgers, you would refuse all of them? Keep in mind that you can make burgers out of virtually anything.

You're attacking someone who has openly stated that they're conscious of the need to eat less meat and are actively seeking out a veggie burger that they actually like (and have finally found one that's tolerable to them).

I honestly think you're fighting the wrong battle here.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

imtringued wrote: post #576
mratzloff wrote: post #301

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As a vegetarian and former meat eater, I've had an "impossible taco" a couple of times. I don't want or crave meat, but they tasted very good. However, the texture totally weirded me out and both times I checked more than once to make sure they didn't accidentally serve me meat. I would wager a meat eater wouldn't know the difference if they were accidentally served these vegetarian tacos instead of beef.

>I would wager a meat eater wouldn't know the difference If this is true the processed food industry would no longer use real meat if the fake meat is cheaper.

At the moment the "fake meat" is much more expensive. But the price will come down as economies of scale kick in.

Incidentally, as a meat eater I'd stop eating it tomorrow if this was the case (bring on the healthy and eco-friendly bacon, sausages and steak!).

Substitutes like Quorn mince in a chili are already more than acceptable to me.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

brandonmenc wrote: post #247
scott_s wrote: post #174

The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…

It's a good start, but it's so, so oily, even compared to a meat burger - and the oil seeps out all over the place. It's such a mess that I eat them with a fork. I'd rather eat something like a black bean burger, but I also eat meat so I'm not looking for my vegetable burgers replicate the experience.

This is actually making it sound even more appealing to me. You can't beat a good greasy burger after a night out!

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

imtringued wrote: post #577
Already__Taken wrote: post #571

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Like you point out, it's maddening people are missing this all over. This isn't for vegetarians to eat something like meat again, it's for meat eaters to carry on not giving a shit about what they eat. And it can't be cheaper than a real meat burger, because consumers will kill its adoption by calling it the "cheap" product. Regardless of merit or quality.

No it wouldn't kill the adoption. It would become practically mandatory for processed food and the only way to eat real meat would then be to buy it and prepare it yourself.

Which would be a good thing? Fast / processed food is pretty much the main market for low welfare factory farmed meat.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

briandear wrote: post #520
delfinom wrote: post #413

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You forget that in America, we'll just bail the farmers out and start shoveling subsidized overproduced meat everywhere we can.

Farmers in Europe and Canada are also heavily subsidized.

Farming is subsidized pretty much everywhere in the developed world because without it we'd all starve to death.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by harimau777 »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #444
harimau777 wrote: post #420

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I've also heard the argument that it comes from an animal welfare perspective: It seems a little ghoulish to eat a calf with its mother's milk.

That doesn't explain the rule as practiced.

Good point.

I'm definitely not an expert on Jewish law (my exposure to it is through reading Leviticus as a Christian). I suppose it's possible that the reason changed over time. However, now that I think about it the health reasons that others have pointed out seem to make more sense. Especially since I would presume that a cow wouldn't have the intelligence to actually be concerned about the precise manner in which you eat it.

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Post by johnchristopher »

nickik wrote: post #190
johnchristopher wrote: post #180

I am in a pizzeria right now and reading this. Looking at the pizza being prepared and thinking... Can we already have ham-like meat, like those slices they put on pizzas ? Or is it only beef-like meat for now?

The technology is more or less there. But it would require a significant amount of actual product development. The technology is capable of producing pretty much every meat, even new kinds of meat that smell like meat but where evolution did not conveniently evolve an animal to produce it. For the company the issue is scale, and since the beef market is huge and profitable they are focusing on scale, more then on int…

Thanks. Can fish flesh be done as well?

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Post by Wheaties466 »

chaosbutters wrote: post #597

now can they slowly cut regular beef patties with veggie patties until consumers notice? Maybe like 5-10%? Most food companies have slowly started doing this to reduce, sugar, calories and fat

Why would they do that? the impossible burgers cost more. And besides the cholesterol they have almost identical nutrition facts.

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Post by slfnflctd »

ryanweinstein wrote: post #424
slfnflctd wrote: post #313

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Fascinating study, it looks like they really did their best to control all the variables. Makes sense that dairy and eggs were the most commonly found non-vegan ingredients-- they are both such a huge part of cooking. As someone who has tried to go vegan in the past, I can tell you that cheese was probably the hardest thing to fully cut out for me, and eggs were right behind it. I'm glad the liars are being called ou…

Have you tried follow your heart vegan cheese?

Not yet, but I will attempt to do so soon, thank you.
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