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Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by dogma1138 »

zihotki wrote: post #4

I've been using Evernote for a while. But since the time MS made a shift to the cloud and has put a lot of effort into OneNote and Office 365, OneNote was doomed to decline in use. Why would you pay for it when you already have Office subscription? On top of that I was struggling with the UX, it didn't fit my habits.

OneNote is also more importantly completely free on all platforms including all of it's cloud features.

Besides OneNote being much better for handwritten and typed note taking as well as "rich notes" one of the most best features it has is email to note which means that even if you have to take notes on a machine that doesn't have it or you can't log in into OneNote from it or if you want to take notes from someone else it can be easily done via emailing to your you@onenote.com address and the auto formatting is pretty awesome.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by enobrev »

hs86 wrote: post #5

After I noticed that their forum thread [1] about requesting LaTeX-style math notes was almost as old as my Evernote Premium subscription, I came to the conclusion that this is just a ripoff. I paid all these years only to keep my access and for the occasional design update but the core experience stagnated. Dropbox Paper already provided a better note-taking experience and with Notion.so I finally found a full repla…

I really like the UX of paper, but I feel like it stopped moving forward, and unfortunately it seems to be moving further away from straight markdown little by little. That said, it's still my go-to for writing anything that requires quick and easy inline styling and formatting.

Notion looks great, but I'm still on the fence about it. I tried it a couple months ago and can't say I loved the mobile experience on Android. I should probably give it another shot.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by hs86 »

steve19 wrote: post #9
hs86 wrote: post #5

After I noticed that their forum thread [1] about requesting LaTeX-style math notes was almost as old as my Evernote Premium subscription, I came to the conclusion that this is just a ripoff. I paid all these years only to keep my access and for the occasional design update but the core experience stagnated. Dropbox Paper already provided a better note-taking experience and with Notion.so I finally found a full repla…

Notion looks great. I was hoping your comment implied it support latex math but unfortunately not.

Paper does this right with single `$` for inline math and double `$$` for math blocks. Currently, Notions supports only math blocks and you can invoke those with `/math`.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by fiblye »

I tried using it years ago over the span of a couple months and found syncing to be absolutely atrocious. It'd delete pages of notes if they didn't exist on the other computer I was syncing to and then they were simply gone forever.

Dropbox was getting huge around the same time. I started just saving my text notes in a dropbox folder. Never had any syncing errors, deleted Evernote, and never looked back. I'm sure they've improved since then, but it's hard to go back after such a sour first impression.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by huffmsa »

I think they need to bet the farm on collaboration. Maybe focus on building a solution for the education market.

Perhaps even roll the dice on AR applications.

I say this as someone who has wanted to love Evernote, but has ultimately stuck with pen and paper and occasionally Google Keep.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by guiriduro »

I don't think Evernote need(s/ed) a team version, but I do think its not sufficiently better to current alternatives for note-taking and bookmarking. I use Pocket for tagged bookmarks and OneNote when I want more context.

Where there is a gap in the market, tying notation to memory and productivity, would be some kind of notation context and intelligent reminder (e.g these web tabs, that note, this tag) tied to some event or place where it would be useful - you're in the workshed and picking up some old project; its someone's birthday you wanted to remind them about xyz. Now that would be a genuinely useful memory aid.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by huffmsa »

guiriduro wrote: post #16

I don't think Evernote need(s/ed) a team version, but I do think its not sufficiently better to current alternatives for note-taking and bookmarking. I use Pocket for tagged bookmarks and OneNote when I want more context. Where there is a gap in the market, tying notation to memory and productivity, would be some kind of notation context and intelligent reminder (e.g these web tabs, that note, this tag) tied to some…

I saw a guy pitching a location based notes app years ago one morning on CNBC. I believe it was called "Acorns" (not the investment app). I was super hyped for it. Would mean the wife could just jot a note about grocery items at any point during the week and I'd get an alert whenever I got to the grocery store. Brilliant. No "don't forget milk" texts, which I forget because it's not on my actual list.

But it never launched. Or did under a new name I was unaware of. I've been waiting for location features for a long long time.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Post by steve19 »

hs86 wrote: post #13
steve19 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notion looks great. I was hoping your comment implied it support latex math but unfortunately not.

Paper does this right with single `$` for inline math and double `$$` for math blocks. Currently, Notions supports only math blocks and you can invoke those with `/math`.

Oh that's great, thanks. I looked at the docs but didn't find anything.
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