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French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by agentphil »

cpeters10 wrote: post #151
vanderZwan wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. This just reminds of how in the late nineties and early 2000s we used to have torrent sites for music enthusiasts with an archive of all the different versions, editions, bootlegs, all painstakingly added and catalogued, representing tens if not hundreds of man-hours wo…

Perhaps someone should painstakingly make a catalog of the internal web stacks of SV companies for people who love code. I'm sure that "library of Alexandria" would be burned quite quickly.

Alternatively this: https://stackshare.io

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by mikorym »

jancsika wrote: post #21

How long would it take the cryptocurrency miners to use all their hashing power to find the deterministic key that generates the content of libgen? That might be an easier solution than trying to achieve minimally sane copyright reform.

If you found such a thing, how would you know?

There is no way of traversing hash collisions. It would be the hash of some string of cryptocurrency jarble that also happens to be the hash of some encoding of the libgen database and you would have no way of knowing this unless you specifically hashed all of libgen. In this case you know all of libgen already anyway, unless you forgot the information that you hashed.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by anextomp »

Cenk wrote: post #163

Would using Tor bypass this block? Or changing DNS servers to Google DNS?

Yes, both would work. Other countries have started with DNS blocks and eventually moved to IP blocks, which would prevent Google DNS from bypassing the block. For now though, changing your DNS will be sufficient.

I'm not aware of any block that is effective against TOR. Even if that were possible, I bet sci-hub has a .onion mirror, which is by definition not blockable.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by narag »

class4behavior wrote: post #152
mateo1 wrote: post #117

Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. Yes, for now governments only caught up to DNS level blocking, but more effective measures will follow if we don't change the political willingness to withhold knowledge from the masses.

>(...) but more effective measures will follow if we don't change the political willingness to withhold knowledge from the masses. The EU just passed the directive for the new copyright package which further cements the status quo (the two often mentioned articles are just the worst of it), so don't expect any progress if people don't start to elect more progressive politicians. The projections for the EU election sh…

I don't know about other countries, but in Spain the left wing is the best friend of the copyright lobby.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by hevi_jos »

class4behavior wrote: post #152
mateo1 wrote: post #117

Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. Yes, for now governments only caught up to DNS level blocking, but more effective measures will follow if we don't change the political willingness to withhold knowledge from the masses.

>(...) but more effective measures will follow if we don't change the political willingness to withhold knowledge from the masses. The EU just passed the directive for the new copyright package which further cements the status quo (the two often mentioned articles are just the worst of it), so don't expect any progress if people don't start to elect more progressive politicians. The projections for the EU election sh…

It is clear reading your comment that you do this transformation in your head automatically:

Progressive = Left = Good

Right = Bad

I don't believe that the access to what public funding pays (public research) is intrinsically linked to the left, quite the opposite.

In the past for example while the US published a lot of information in public journals, Soviet Russia was very secretive about theirs(while benefiting from the West). US was not leftist than Soviet Russia.

While the left wants to link themselves to the idea of "progress", hence the auto denominated name "progressive", I don't see the progress anywhere after watching the process take action in Europe multiple times(North Americans have not experienced real left in power), quite the opposite.

The left wants to create a monster State. Once in place individuals have no power at all. Everything is controlled top down and as there is only one entity, there is no competition.

There is way more risk of "regulatory capture" when there is only one entity than when competition exist. Journals ownership of what public funding pays is a case of regulatory capture.

Scientists should demand their work to be in the open, or it will not really be science.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by dzhiurgis »

vanderZwan wrote: post #142
mateo1 wrote: post #117

Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. Yes, for now governments only caught up to DNS level blocking, but more effective measures will follow if we don't change the political willingness to withhold knowledge from the masses.

> Those 2 libraries are the closest thing to the modern internet equivalent of the "Library of Alexandria". I hope they don't manage to burn in down. This just reminds of how in the late nineties and early 2000s we used to have torrent sites for music enthusiasts with an archive of all the different versions, editions, bootlegs, all painstakingly added and catalogued, representing tens if not hundreds of man-hours wo…

Soulseek is still pretty solid

A lot of it was about album collecting which frankly is not working the same anymore

Personally I am sad iOS poorly supports listening mixes plus Soundcloud slowly destroying itself...

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Post by kkarakk »

throwawaw434234 wrote: post #131

I hope the Indian govt. doesn't follow suit. Libgen and Scihub serve a very great resource in a country that can't afford the absurd rates to go through the paywall; rare books that are not popular, and thus not part of the South-Asia-only reprints, are absurdly expensive. Sadly, the current idiots in power think following the diktats of any and every passing foreign bureaucrat is an order from the Devas themselves.…

Indian govt doesn't have to - Reliance Jio is proactively censoring all sorts of "problematic" sites without any government mandate. they took down reddit for some states already
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