Earlier quoted context omitted.
With a lot of proxies (in the linked document (french) [0]) I didn't know about; perfect! [0]: https://torrentfreak.com/images/scihuborder.pdf
Also it feels so old-school to see the same list 4 times in the juristic document.
French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen
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Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen
#42>The court order targets a total of 57 domain names, including various mirror sites. The academic publishers had asked the court for a more flexible blocklist, which they could update whenever new domains would become available, but this was denied. If the publishers want to expand the blocklist, they will have to go back to court. This ensures that there remains judicial oversight over local website blockades. Also,…
Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen
#43Why do the French have such a hard-on for copyright enforcement? (Honest question)
I think a bit less than the US, because we don't have Disney or Hollywood in general, but it's still pretty high.
Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen
#44>The court order targets a total of 57 domain names, including various mirror sites. The academic publishers had asked the court for a more flexible blocklist, which they could update whenever new domains would become available, but this was denied. If the publishers want to expand the blocklist, they will have to go back to court. This ensures that there remains judicial oversight over local website blockades. Also,…
Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen
#45>The court order targets a total of 57 domain names, including various mirror sites. The academic publishers had asked the court for a more flexible blocklist, which they could update whenever new domains would become available, but this was denied. If the publishers want to expand the blocklist, they will have to go back to court. This ensures that there remains judicial oversight over local website blockades. Also,…
Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen
#46Would be interesting to measure the negative impact on a French science. Not sure how much though.
I would expect there to be basically none. Most of the journals that people are after their university still pays for access for. Failing that, they email the author and get a copy directly. And if that isn't possible, there are a few people with wider ranging interests or wider ranging technical skills who know about sci-hub and libgen, and they will pass out the new domain name as necessary. Or even convince the de…
Just speculation, but maybe this is a pre-emptive strike? Probably the courts would be less inclined to support the publishers if they sued to block these services only after they entered into conflict (with the universities)?
Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
The French really love their language, traditional publishers continue to publish in French whereas new-tech is more often in English or other languages. So I'd argue that the French have a love-affair with traditional publishing, and traditional publishing loves draconian copyright rules. The whole thing is almost a culture war for the French people's soul by-proxy.
so pride is killing their ability to access information. In this case I have no pity for them, then. If they want to feel better about themselves by cutting off their own ears because other people are using English then let them.
Now please don't consider this ruling as one made by the actual researchers, especially the younger ones that had a decent English education and sees no problem using English material.
Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think theyre suggesting hashing all of libgen and distributing and working backwards from that hash, as a joke
It's not totally ridiculous, just wildly impractical. There is a hash out there that if brute-forced would yield a Windows 10 version of Half-Life 3.
Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen
#49>The court order targets a total of 57 domain names, including various mirror sites. The academic publishers had asked the court for a more flexible blocklist, which they could update whenever new domains would become available, but this was denied. If the publishers want to expand the blocklist, they will have to go back to court. This ensures that there remains judicial oversight over local website blockades. Also,…
Its always DNS first and everyone says "lol, just change your DNS" and then they start doing real blocks. Optus in Australia did an IP level block of 4chan recently.
I would be surprised if Optus actually managed to do SNI filtering for the entire country without screwing it up.
Edit: Huh, seems like they do have a dedicated IP. At least both Robtex and Securitytrails report them as the only tenant on their IP. But you can /etc/hosts 4chan.org to a different Cloudflare IP, and CF will still SNI-route it to the real site. That would defeat any IP address-based block.
Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen
#50>The court order targets a total of 57 domain names, including various mirror sites. The academic publishers had asked the court for a more flexible blocklist, which they could update whenever new domains would become available, but this was denied. If the publishers want to expand the blocklist, they will have to go back to court. This ensures that there remains judicial oversight over local website blockades. Also,…
That sounds like DPI and rewriting upstream DNS responses is not excluded though. If that gets implemented, it doesn't matter which server you choose.