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Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by scott_s »

Simon_says wrote: post #398
scott_s wrote: post #174

The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…

If it's been 18 years since you had a burger, I'm not sure you're the expert on what's closest to meat.

You have to consider the set of alternative available to the person.

If you're considering people who do eat meat, and want something that is close-enough to meat as a substitute, then yes, I am not a good judge of that. But if you're considering people who do not eat meat, and want something that's as close as they can get of things that are not meat, then I think I am an expert since over the past 18 years I have had many different varieties of that thing.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by cheeze »

mav3rick wrote: post #498

As a vegetarian my entire life. I don't think I am the right audience for this. McDonald's in India gets the right mix of potatoes and veggies to make a delicious veggie burger. Trader Joe's has some Spicy Masala Patties that are very good too. Needless to say these are mostly carbs and no protein but the taste is awesome :)

Sounds like you're not. If you don't want the taste of meat, there is 0 point in you caring about this at all.

But as you said, those options have no protein and aren't trying to be a meat replacement.

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Post by cheeze »

brandonmenc wrote: post #247
scott_s wrote: post #174

The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…

It's a good start, but it's so, so oily, even compared to a meat burger - and the oil seeps out all over the place. It's such a mess that I eat them with a fork. I'd rather eat something like a black bean burger, but I also eat meat so I'm not looking for my vegetable burgers replicate the experience.

IMO it all comes down to the place that cooks it. I've had oily ones and I've had ones that were very meat like.

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Post by [deleted] »

odyssey7 wrote: post #365
mratzloff wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a vegetarian and former meat eater, I've had an "impossible taco" a couple of times. I don't want or crave meat, but they tasted very good. However, the texture totally weirded me out and both times I checked more than once to make sure they didn't accidentally serve me meat. I would wager a meat eater wouldn't know the difference if they were accidentally served these vegetarian tacos instead of beef.

In a fast food environment, as a vegetarian, I don’t think I would order this unless there was an easy way for me to verify which burger I was eating.

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Post by bobthepanda »

markdown wrote: post #496
jonny_eh wrote: post #417

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And finding kosher beef. If you want a kosher burger, you usually need to buy the beef yourself and make your own burger.

Is it really that hard to find kosher beef in US restaurants? What about halal beef?

All the beef has to be kosher.

Not only that, but the kosher requirements (no dairy and meat together), depending on how kosher you are, also to apply to the plates the meal is served on, the equipment the meal is cooked on, and food storage areas; you need strictly segregated facilities, and washing between uses does not make it kosher. The requirements are strict to the point where rabbis have to regularly certify kosher restaurants as kosher.

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Post by duxup »

I guess fast food burgers is where a lot of meat is consumed but ... oddly I find most fast food burgers to not taste like beef. Or maybe it is better said they taste "like" beef.

I'll be happy to replace meat with better alternatives when they come, but at least from my perspective it's not a huge step, although maybe it will make a big difference in the larger scope.

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Post by BurningFrog »

cpfohl wrote: post #438
veryworried wrote: post #395

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This religious rule comes from a well known scientific observation: meat blocks calcium absorption.

Uh, check your sources. History suggests a ~5000 year old document probably had little to say about calcium absorbtion. https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/15/why-does...

Of course not, but rituals that survive probably have some kind of objective survival value, so it's reasonable to try to figure out what these ancient food taboos origin really are.

For example, shell fish were probably or average unhealthy to eat back in the day. So claiming God commanded The People to not eat it was the FDA implementation of its time.

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Post by dang »

hanniabu wrote: post #392
dang wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. " " Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Why was this posted? I don't think there's anything wrong with this question.

Because it's a classic flamewar topic which leads away from the specifics of this story and towards generic hostilities; and because taking a stronger interpretation of the comment would have made the question unnecessary—i.e. scott_s is probably just as aware as the rest of us that fish are animals and their flesh is in that sense meat, and therefore he was probably just not using the word 'meat' in that sense.

scott_s replied in an evenhanded way, but many (maybe most) commenters in his position would have taken the question as hostile and responded in kind.

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Post by mav3rick »

cheeze wrote: post #502
mav3rick wrote: post #498

As a vegetarian my entire life. I don't think I am the right audience for this. McDonald's in India gets the right mix of potatoes and veggies to make a delicious veggie burger. Trader Joe's has some Spicy Masala Patties that are very good too. Needless to say these are mostly carbs and no protein but the taste is awesome :)

Sounds like you're not. If you don't want the taste of meat, there is 0 point in you caring about this at all. But as you said, those options have no protein and aren't trying to be a meat replacement.

Correct !!

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by markdown »

bobthepanda wrote: post #505
markdown wrote: post #496

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really that hard to find kosher beef in US restaurants? What about halal beef?

All the beef has to be kosher. Not only that, but the kosher requirements (no dairy and meat together), depending on how kosher you are, also to apply to the plates the meal is served on, the equipment the meal is cooked on, and food storage areas; you need strictly segregated facilities, and washing between uses does not make it kosher. The requirements are strict to the point where rabbis have to regularly certify…

I see. Thanks for the insight.
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