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San Diego Implemented City-Wide Streetlight Surveillance

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Re: San Diego Implemented City-Wide Streetlight Surveillance

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Post by parineum »

gumby wrote: post #150
maxxxxx wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't defeatism. I just think there is a wave coming that's really hard to stop and I don't see anything in the current political structure that's willing to stop it.

More articles like this to raise awareness and importance of issues. Getting younger people who give a shit to vote, and to become immune to the bogus fear mongering. Hope the baby boomers die off of old age before the panopticon is built.

Why would you think that young people would be more inclined to not accept a surveillance state?

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Post by godelski »

enraged_camel wrote: post #160
nosuchthing wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Marijuana legalization is proof of the contrary

It is not. The federal government has simply chosen not to challenge the states on this issue... so far.

Frankly because it would be extremely unpopular. Even in the right wing places, where there is a correlation to less favorable views of marijuana, there's a high correlation to belief that states rights should trump federal rights. Really they believe that the fed should be minimal and things mostly run by the states.

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Post by BurningFrog »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #61
veryworried wrote: post #60

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Under control from what? Committing crimes, breaking into homes, shooting people dead, raping women going out for a jog, planning terrorist activity? I welcome it.

Voting for the wrong person? Attending 'subversive' meetings that criticize the current regime? Going to the wrong church?

How will a streetlight camera affect any of that?

Re: San Diego Implemented City-Wide Streetlight Surveillance

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Post by another_comment »

mark212 wrote: post #21

This blog post is highly misleading and inaccurate. Access to the video is very limited and subject to strict protocols for use in investigations. And the audio recording capacity isn’t live because the City has no use for it. The SD Reader isn’t a very trustworthy source. Here’s the U-T’s extensive piece on the topic: https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversatio...

You have it backwards. The Union Tribune is known to shill for the establishment and has been called "not a credible source of information". The San Diego Reader is local, independent and has a good reputation for honesty.

Source: I've lived in San Diego for the last 50 years.

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Post by [deleted] »

djeikyb wrote: post #147
bilbo0s wrote: post #108

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To be fair, the people of San Diego voted their government in. So in my view, they got what they deserved. I'm not sitting on a high horse or anything. I mean hey, I'm from Wisconsin. We're literally the nation's corruption measuring stick . But we voted our politicians in, so we deserve what's happening to us. I'm just holding San Diego to the same standard. If you hadn't voted them in, this wouldn't be happening to…

1. the folks who did this weren’t unanimously voted in by san diego residents 2. the folks who did this did it secretly, without consent deserves? i’d rather push for what ought to be than justify the current mess.

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Re: San Diego Implemented City-Wide Streetlight Surveillance

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Post by renholder »

mullen wrote: post #111

Life long resident and native born San Diegan here. This is not meant to be sarcastic or dismissive but this is the City of San Diego we're talking about. City of San Diego has a pretty good history of being completely incompetent. No matter what nefarious intent that you might think the City has, they are way to incompetent to do any of it. This type of system is only useful to non-idiots.

>This type of system is only useful to non-idiots.

So, everyone that isn't the City of San Diego, which is pretty problematic, when you think about it.

Re: San Diego Implemented City-Wide Streetlight Surveillance

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Post by another_comment »

djeikyb wrote: post #147
bilbo0s wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the people of San Diego voted their government in. So in my view, they got what they deserved. I'm not sitting on a high horse or anything. I mean hey, I'm from Wisconsin. We're literally the nation's corruption measuring stick . But we voted our politicians in, so we deserve what's happening to us. I'm just holding San Diego to the same standard. If you hadn't voted them in, this wouldn't be happening to…

1. the folks who did this weren’t unanimously voted in by san diego residents 2. the folks who did this did it secretly, without consent deserves? i’d rather push for what ought to be than justify the current mess.

>> the folks who did this did it secretly, without consent

This. I've lived in San Diego for 50 years and this was done in secret.

I'm contacting the ACLU to try and get a lawsuit going. This is appalling.

Re: San Diego Implemented City-Wide Streetlight Surveillance

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Post by another_comment »

mark212 wrote: post #81
noja wrote: post #27

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Are there video camera and microphones installed city-wide on streetlights or not?

No, there aren’t. This is a few hundred cameras and it’s mostly downtown. San Diego is the eighth largest city in the US and this is a tiny fraction of the city. Evaluate it on the merits, but be clear about what’s really going on.

>> No, there aren’t. This is a few hundred cameras and it’s mostly downtown.

Wrong. I've seen these from Pacific Beach to Imperial Beach. That is around 40 miles from North to South. They are _everywhere_. You can spot them by the black antennas sticking out the bottom of the light fixture.

Source: I've lived in San Diego for 50 years.

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Post by PixyMisa »

mark212 wrote: post #21

This blog post is highly misleading and inaccurate. Access to the video is very limited and subject to strict protocols for use in investigations. And the audio recording capacity isn’t live because the City has no use for it. The SD Reader isn’t a very trustworthy source. Here’s the U-T’s extensive piece on the topic: https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversatio...

Access to mobile phone location data is also very limited and subject to strict protocols for use in investigations which absolutely everyone ignores.
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