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It has an impact on your behavior in public no matter if the camera is on or off, because you cannot be sure.
Not to sound moralistic but if yiu wouldn’t do it while being recorded, why would you do it in public at all?
San Diego Implemented City-Wide Streetlight Surveillance
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#132Just want to note, to be fair here, the "communities of color" have next to or no active cameras installed (according to the map in the article).
That said, this is sad but not surprising.
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This could work great mounted to a drone, to operate without being tracked by the remaining surveillance cameras. The problem is that the stakes are quite high, and a gradually creeping occupation doesn't lend itself to a flashpoint of popular opinion saying enough is enough. This might be a great nonmurder application for an assassination-market style thing though.
You could begin in dense districts to have a more pronounced reaction.
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#134It's just a matter of time until we have country-wide full surveillance. It will be the perfect tool for anyone who wants to create a dictatorship. The thought police and the telescreens in 1984 will look primitive and weak in comparison. I think there is no way around it. Add to that drones to keep the population under control and there is huge danger we'll have a pretty bleak future.
Dictatorship forms okay without it.
More overt surveillance is a civil maintainer. Taiwan has camera surveillance everywhere and solves above 90% crime.
It used to surprise me how in denial people can be about their own localities' surveillance. Now I think that makes sense as a consequence of the surveillance mostly being covert.
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#135It's just a matter of time until we have country-wide full surveillance. It will be the perfect tool for anyone who wants to create a dictatorship. The thought police and the telescreens in 1984 will look primitive and weak in comparison. I think there is no way around it. Add to that drones to keep the population under control and there is huge danger we'll have a pretty bleak future.
Could a startup make a dent?
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#136It's just a matter of time until we have country-wide full surveillance. It will be the perfect tool for anyone who wants to create a dictatorship. The thought police and the telescreens in 1984 will look primitive and weak in comparison. I think there is no way around it. Add to that drones to keep the population under control and there is huge danger we'll have a pretty bleak future.
Under control from what? Committing crimes, breaking into homes, shooting people dead, raping women going out for a jog, planning terrorist activity? I welcome it.
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#137It's just a matter of time until we have country-wide full surveillance. It will be the perfect tool for anyone who wants to create a dictatorship. The thought police and the telescreens in 1984 will look primitive and weak in comparison. I think there is no way around it. Add to that drones to keep the population under control and there is huge danger we'll have a pretty bleak future.
Honestly, we need to discuss how to stop it. Everyone goes around trading opinions and complaining, but this is an entrepreneurship community. We need to talk about solutions. Could a startup make a dent?
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It also gives tech workers unprecedented abilities to fight it. Software engineers need to take social responsibility for what they create.
Agreed. The narrative is frequently, "Tech company X's CEO was running secret, morally-questionable project. Rest of the company's engineers upset to find out about it." So far that dissatisfaction has been mostly inert, unfortunately. But I like to think that the typical engineer's morals haven't been as corroded by money as the typical CEO, and that we'll eventually reach a breaking point where things will get so b…
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#139It's just a matter of time until we have country-wide full surveillance. It will be the perfect tool for anyone who wants to create a dictatorship. The thought police and the telescreens in 1984 will look primitive and weak in comparison. I think there is no way around it. Add to that drones to keep the population under control and there is huge danger we'll have a pretty bleak future.
Honestly, we need to discuss how to stop it. Everyone goes around trading opinions and complaining, but this is an entrepreneurship community. We need to talk about solutions. Could a startup make a dent?
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#140This is what so sad about tech, it gives those in power unprecedented abilities to control the population. Essentially heading back to slavery through technology with no way out for the slaves anymore.
It also gives tech workers unprecedented abilities to fight it. Software engineers need to take social responsibility for what they create.
I’ve quit jobs in the past over ethical concerns with the project. It is a valid reason, and it just takes courage.