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Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by marzell »

gowld wrote: post #275
screye wrote: post #248

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That being said, I'm surprised that they haven't tried selling burgers with veg patties, that they already sell in India. Ofc they do not taste like meat, and aren't supposed to taste like meat. But, damn, do they taste good on their own.

https://www.bk.com/menu-item/veggie-burger The Impossible Burger is in weird niche that screams "fad" to me, or at least early-prototype, like self-driving cars -- it's an expensive fake meat, dollar-for-dollar optimized for looking and feeling like low-quality ground beef burger, instead of high-quality something-else-burger. At best it's an expensive but meatless mediocre meat-imitation burger. Why opt for that ins…

It's at least another option, and seems to be far healthier than actual beef. In the tech world especially, there are people that have more money than time, and might choose this as a healthier alternative. Once you dress up an Impossible/Beyond patty with all the fixins, it is a lot closer to a real beef burger than a more traditional veggie burger.

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Post by benj111 »

munk-a wrote: post #305
benj111 wrote: post #241

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Interesting. Speaking as a carnivore, I find eating human flesh morally wrong, and would be quite insulted if someone cooked my burger next to some 'man' burger. So I can understand their point of view.

Eh, even with the lengths this comment went to present a working framing I still don't accept it. Either cannibalism is so objectionable that I'd refuse to patronize a restaurant that served human flesh, or I'd probably not mind them being cooked side-by-side. That might be a bigger things for vegans, by buying even vegetarian stuff from burger king you're supporting a company that financially motivates a lot of acti…

I'm struggling to think of suitable analogue that would work for someone who eats meat. If you have a better suggestion ill go with that.

You're trying to bring logic into a moral decision. While I agree that that's the way I would approach it, it isn't the only way to approach it. As I said I'm a meat eater so I don't follow all the logical steps to being vegan, but that logical step I do understand.

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Post by marzell »

spikels wrote: post #309
astura wrote: post #273

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2.0 version was introduced at CES in January of this year. If it was before January it was the 1.0 version, if it was after January it might have been either.

The 2.0 version is available at some restaurants in SF. I haven’t got to try it yet but was told about it.

I have found the 2.0 versions of both Impossible Burger and Beyond Meat burgers to be a decent improvement over their original versions.

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Post by anticensor »

lucb1e wrote: post #192
Accacin wrote: post #168

I'd like to add that I see a lot of people saying, "If you're vegetarian/vegan why are you going Burger King?" - Well, I don't go often, but on the off chance that I'm with some friends and they go to a fast-food restaurant, it's much easier and less awkward if there's something I can eat too.

I go because it's quick, easy, and quite cheap (€2 for a veggie burger in Germany). For 4 bucks I'm full. Kebab is slightly more expensive and has meat, pizza is more expensive (also if you pick it up), and chinese/thai/vietnamese takeaway is more expensive. The snackbar (frituur) might come close, but those don't seem to exist outside of NL/BE. I'm not actually vegetarian, but trying to eat less meat, mcdonald's mak…

Here in Turkey, McDonalds, mid-size pizza and kebab costs the same (~₺25).

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Post by sneakernets »

Retra wrote: post #315
bsder wrote: post #277

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Burger King and McDonald's "burgers" barely resemble the real thing anymore, so an "Impossible Burger" might be a step up. Seriously, go eat a McDonald's burger in Italy. The difference between that one and one in the US will shock you.

Why would anybody eat a chicken nugget when they can get a slice of that grade A free-range whole wheat grass fed organic chicken breast which provides only objectively superior flavor for every human palette? Better not put bbq sauce on it though, because that is meant for only the classiest of ribs. Every aspect of food: price, quality, appeal, ethics, and flavors, lie together on a single linear scale. So sayeth t…

I know you're trolling, but there once was a time when fast food wasn't objectively terrible. Something happened in the name of cost-cutting. Taco Bell is one of the biggest ones I remember, as they would have an employee prepare the lettuce manually, grate the cheese, etc. Even the olives were sliced by a kitchen tool.

McDonald's is another one, my cousin once earned a "fry guy" pin where he cut and fried the most potatoes in a day. Yes, _cut_. None of that frozen garbage.

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Post by munk-a »

Theodores wrote: post #220
alpaca128 wrote: post #194

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Just out of interest, what's the reasoning behind a strict separation of the two? I understand it in the case of gluten free products because that can really have health implications, but when you are vegan for ethical reasons it shouldn't make a difference, right? But I'd say this is great news either way. I like meat, but when there's a way to get the same taste and texture without the bad consequences for animals…

Cross contamination. You don't want your veggie burger to be prepared/fried/grilled/microwaved/burnt on the same surfaces with the same fats that are being used for the dead animal products. Some of this is to do with pathogens, some of it is due to taste. There are many vegetarian products designed to taste like meat, e.g. fake bacon, but plenty of vegetarians do not actually like the taste of meat even if that is a…

This is too extremely silly for me. I can understand the taste angle (my wife isn't a fan of red meat, she can tolerate it but doesn't enjoy it), I can understand the religious angle (people are silly) and I can understand the ethical angle... Lastly, I have heard of people who have gone full vegan and react poorly to a soup that surprised them by being a beef broth base which causes indigestion.

But!

Using the same knife to cut a meat sandwich and then a vegetarian sandwich, that sounds like some "wifi allergy" level BS to me. If that's actually a thing I'd like to see a well designed double blind study that could back it up - depending on the knife thickness there's a decent chance that the knife has been implicitly wiped down through the action of cutting before it gets anywhere near the vegetarian sandwich - I'd find it more concerning if the same cutting board was reused as that would give a decent chance that some left-over meat is pressed into the bottom of the sandwich, though in that case a quick dry wipe down would suffice.

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Post by TuringNYC »

Accacin wrote: post #168

I'd like to add that I see a lot of people saying, "If you're vegetarian/vegan why are you going Burger King?" - Well, I don't go often, but on the off chance that I'm with some friends and they go to a fast-food restaurant, it's much easier and less awkward if there's something I can eat too.

Because I mostly eat vegetarian and Impossible Burger is served at only ~7 places close to me (in the VA-DC-MD metro area). With Burger King, i'd get access almost anywhere. That is awesome.

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Post by nightski »

flowardnut wrote: post #254

I've had an impossible burger, and cooked very well it almost made me pull my waiter aside and verify I wasn't eating meat. Also ate meat for decades, so I also am very familiar with it.

Weird, I tried it and wanted to like it simply because it was higher in fat and lower carb than your traditional veggie burger - but it was very obvious I was eating fake meat. It was ok, I'd eat it again. But I would not replace real beef with it any time soon.

But I am keto. So I am not eating it with a bun and tons of sugary sauces to cover up the meat flavor. You can really tell the quality of a burger (meat or not) when you eat it wrapped in lettuce.

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Post by dang »

spraak wrote: post #184
scott_s wrote: post #174

The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…

Why don't you think that fish is meat?

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Post by wlesieutre »

gwbas1c wrote: post #86
wlesieutre wrote: post #12

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> Ugh. First: The vegetarians that I know don't like meat. So making a veggie burger that tastes like the thing they don't like is just dumb. What about the other 95% of people you know who aren't vegetarians because they like meat a lot? > Second: When I tasted an Impossible Burger, it was awful. It tasted like a horrible veggie burger. Haven't had one myself, but the friends I've heard from (largely not vegetarians…

Go try a good veggie burger. They've been around a lot longer then the impossible burger, and taste a lot better.

I've had a lot of veggie burgers, my main problem with them is the lack of structure. If they're more than like 1/4" thick you try to take a bite and the whole thing squishes out the sides of the bun.

Personal favorite veggie-protein-patty is morningstar's "buffalo chik," which aren't really that chicken-like but taste good and have enough structure to stay together while you eat them.

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