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Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Wait, are you really complaining about nutrition at a fast food restaurant ?

Sometimes, you need something fast, cheap, and easy, so it's nice to have some fast food items in mind that have reasonable calories and macros. A great example is when I'm driving long distance, I'll swing by CFA if possible.

> I'll swing by CFA if possible.

Uh... http://cfa.org ?

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Every modern society, looking back fifty years, condemns behavior once considered normal (male-only voting, interracial marriage bans, jailing gays, etc). I'm convinced industrial animal agriculture will be one of the things today's society is condemned for, fifty years from now.

And then industrial plant agriculture 25 years later (eating plants is murder too after all).

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I've had an impossible burger 1.0 and felt it was basically like a crappy but passable burger. Waiting for the 2.0 one to hit places near me. Which version are you talking about?

I don't know. I ordered them at Bareburgers in Westchester, NY in the past year: https://www.bareburger.com

2.0 version was introduced at CES in January of this year.

If it was before January it was the 1.0 version, if it was after January it might have been either.

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Just out of interest, what's the reasoning behind a strict separation of the two? I understand it in the case of gluten free products because that can really have health implications, but when you are vegan for ethical reasons it shouldn't make a difference, right? But I'd say this is great news either way. I like meat, but when there's a way to get the same taste and texture without the bad consequences for animals…

Religious reasons, for one. Some vegetarians are just very grossed out by it (I'm one of them). I generally look the other way at very minor cross contamination, its probably going to happen once in a while, especially if I don't know about it, but if I taste meat juices in my food I completely lose my appetite. I once bit into sausage that found its way into my pizza (I suspect it fell into the cheese) and I couldn'…

> (of course, for a burger that's supposed to taste exactly like beef, you wouldn't know...)

Funny thing, that: http://archives.quarrygirl.com/2009/06/28/undercover-investi...

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I'd like to add that I see a lot of people saying, "If you're vegetarian/vegan why are you going Burger King?" - Well, I don't go often, but on the off chance that I'm with some friends and they go to a fast-food restaurant, it's much easier and less awkward if there's something I can eat too.

That being said, I'm surprised that they haven't tried selling burgers with veg patties, that they already sell in India. Ofc they do not taste like meat, and aren't supposed to taste like meat. But, damn, do they taste good on their own.

https://www.bk.com/menu-item/veggie-burger

The Impossible Burger is in weird niche that screams "fad" to me, or at least early-prototype, like self-driving cars -- it's an expensive fake meat, dollar-for-dollar optimized for looking and feeling like low-quality ground beef burger, instead of high-quality something-else-burger. At best it's an expensive but meatless mediocre meat-imitation burger. Why opt for that instead of a less-expensive but good burger?

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The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…

Vegns often fail to understand how important texture is to meat eaters when it comes to replicating a meat product so that it will appeal to meat eaters.

Additionally, a lot of vegns are also extremely health conscious, and so they tend to avoid a lot of unnecessary fat in their diet. A lot of chefs will say "fat is flavor," which is true, but what's also true is that fat conveys flavor. It sticks to surfaces in places that water doesn't and allows flavors to linger.

It's why the Impossible and Beyond Burgers are succeeding: they haven't lost sight of what makes a burger, a burger.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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I'd like to add that I see a lot of people saying, "If you're vegetarian/vegan why are you going Burger King?" - Well, I don't go often, but on the off chance that I'm with some friends and they go to a fast-food restaurant, it's much easier and less awkward if there's something I can eat too.

"Because I want to have a drive through vegetarian hamburger and I want it to have it anywhere in the country...

Burger King and McDonald's "burgers" barely resemble the real thing anymore, so an "Impossible Burger" might be a step up.

Seriously, go eat a McDonald's burger in Italy. The difference between that one and one in the US will shock you.

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Hopefully carbon taxes and such would kick in at some point and would include the real environmental cost of beef, so the switching to plant based beef would be even more swift.

Beef only is responsible for 3% of greenhouse gasses in America. I'm not sure an "emission" tax would really affect the price all that much. In addition, you have to account for and tax the emissions produced in plant production (fertilizer, agricultural soil, transportation, etc...). Agriculture is a total of 9%, whereas livestock only accounts for 3% of that. I work for agriculture companies, and a lot of animal fe…

I believe this is a very US-centric viewpoint.

I'm using the article 'Beef Cattle and Greenhouse Gas Production' from Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs. http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/livestock/beef/news/info...

According Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO) of the UN 2006 report livestock were responsible for 18% of all human-related greenhouse gas production. 14.5% according to 2013 report.

Of that 43% is Enteric.

There may only be 9% GHG emissions in the US, but beef also comes from other countries where these emissions are very different. See Regional and Production System differences.

From the article -- There was an approximately 4-fold difference in emission intensity between the top 10% of producers and the bottom 10% of producers within a system.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…

It's an Impossible Burger, and left undersaid is that it's a fast-food burger. It's not an Impossible Steak or an Impossible Grill Burger. I just don't see the point, vs a high-protein high-fat patty made of bean or soy protein isolate that tastes good in it own non-fake-fast-good-meat-burger way. The only reason I am tempted to buy meat patties is that they are so much cheaper than Boca patties. An even-more-expensive patty that adds red liquid to simulate the look of heme is moving in the wrong direction.

Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Every modern society, looking back fifty years, condemns behavior once considered normal (male-only voting, interracial marriage bans, jailing gays, etc). I'm convinced industrial animal agriculture will be one of the things today's society is condemned for, fifty years from now.

Just look at Denise McAllister and her recent twitter meltdown. She trolled people by declaring that her husband told her to shut up because the game was on and that she should mind her place. Others responded, one of them a gay journalist. She replied nastily about his homosexuality.

She in turn was banned from two far-right wing publications: The Daily Caller and The Federalist. Even twenty years ago, she would have been applauded for her reaction by the same kind of people and they would have concern-trolled for weeks about the negative reaction others might have had.

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